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    Prince Myshkin addresses General Epanchin in Dostoevsky’s understated masterpiece..THE IDIOT.

    “This is not my own fantastical opinion — many people have thought the same; but I feel it so deeply that I’ll tell you what I think. I believe that to execute a man for murder is to punish him immeasurably more dreadfully than is equivalent to his crime. A murder by sentence is far more dreadful than a murder committed by a criminal. The man who is attacked by robbers at night, in a dark wood, or anywhere, undoubtedly hopes and hopes that he may yet escape until the very moment of his death. There are plenty of instances of a man running away, or imploring for mercy — at all events hoping on in some degree — even after his throat was cut. But in the case of an execution, that last hope — having which it is so immeasurably less dreadful to die, — is taken away from the wretch and CERTAINTY substituted in its place! There is his sentence, and with it that terrible certainty that he cannot possibly escape death — which, I consider, must be the most dreadful anguish in the world. You may place a soldier before a cannon’s mouth in battle, and fire upon him — and he will still hope. But read to that same soldier his death-sentence, and he will either go mad or burst into tears. Who dares to say that any man can suffer this without going mad? No, no! it is an abuse, a shame, it is unnecessary — why should such a thing exist? Doubtless there may be men who have been sentenced, who have suffered this mental anguish for a while and then have been reprieved; perhaps such men may have been able to relate their feelings afterwards. Our Lord Christ spoke of this anguish and dread. No! no! no! No man should be treated so, no man, no man!”

    #192455

    @toybulldog wrote:

    @Sgt Pepper wrote:

    It’s Bloomsday again people!

    ” When , lo, there came about them all a great brightness and they beheld the chariot wherein He shall ascend to heaven. And they beheld him in the chariot, clothed upon in the glory of the brightness, having raiment as of the sun, fair as the moon and terrible that for awe they durst not look upon Him. And there came a voice out of heaven, calling: Elijah ! Elijah ! And he answered them with a main cry: Abba ! Adonai ! And they beheld Him even Him, ben Bloom Elijah, amid clouds of angels ascend to the glory of the brightness at an angle of fortyfive degrees over Donahoe’s in Little Green Street like a shot off a shovel. “

    http://home.bway.net/hunger/ch1-ulys.html

    Excellent toy =D>

    :)

    #192456

    @esmeralda wrote:

    Prince Muishkin addresses General Epanchin in Dostoevsky’s understated masterpiece..THE IDIOT.

    “This is not my own fantastical opinion — many people have thought the same; but I feel it so deeply that I’ll tell you what I think. I believe that to execute a man for murder is to punish him immeasurably more dreadfully than is equivalent to his crime. A murder by sentence is far more dreadful than a murder committed by a criminal. The man who is attacked by robbers at night, in a dark wood, or anywhere, undoubtedly hopes and hopes that he may yet escape until the very moment of his death. There are plenty of instances of a man running away, or imploring for mercy — at all events hoping on in some degree — even after his throat was cut. But in the case of an execution, that last hope — having which it is so immeasurably less dreadful to die, — is taken away from the wretch and CERTAINTY substituted in its place! There is his sentence, and with it that terrible certainty that he cannot possibly escape death — which, I consider, must be the most dreadful anguish in the world. You may place a soldier before a cannon’s mouth in battle, and fire upon him — and he will still hope. But read to that same soldier his death-sentence, and he will either go mad or burst into tears. Who dares to say that any man can suffer this without going mad? No, no! it is an abuse, a shame, it is unnecessary — why should such a thing exist? Doubtless there may be men who have been sentenced, who have suffered this mental anguish for a while and then have been reprieved; perhaps such men may have been able to relate their feelings afterwards. Our Lord Christ spoke of this anguish and dread. No! no! no! No man should be treated so, no man, no man!”

    .. and Excellent Esme =D>

    :)

    A powerful passage – and I agree with the narrative essence of THE IDIOT lingering for far too long (and indeed injudiciously) in the shadow of what would seem the more muscular CRIME AND PUNISHMENT.
    Not to downgrade the brilliant latter of course :roll: ..

    Anyway, good show :wink:

    #192457

    I wanna play but the words are all too big :cry:

    #192458

    @sharongooner wrote:

    I wanna play but the words are all too big :cry:

    Aww come play Shazzle Dazzle.. in this case size don’t matter :P

    #192459

    Do you remember the ladybird books the ones where the front cover said Read it yourself?

    They had lovely pictures inside the front cover and first page of a fairytale world…. all meadows and a castle with turrets in the distance. I used to draw it all the time. It also had two bunnies near the front of the picture.

    All the stories revolved around that fairy tale world. I wanted to live there and even dreamt about it.

    Im glad my mum and dad still buy me them books :wink:

    #192460

    Omg I loved Ladybird books Shaz :)

    I remember some of the covers so vividly..

    Here’s one of the versions you refered to there..

    I so loved a good Fairy Tale .. still do :oops:

    #192461

    @Sgt Pepper wrote:

    Omg I loved Ladybird books Shaz :)

    I remember some of the covers so vividly..

    Here’s one of the versions you refered to there..

    I so loved a good Fairy Tale .. still do :oops:

    fuck off really??!!

    You do my head in!

    oh no, If I start I wont stop! Im already picturing the cabbages in the garden… which ones that from??!!! oh to be sure I didnt expect you to remember that, not just you but anybody!

    #192462

    lol believe it Shaz!

    We lived for a while in a pretty small bungalow at the top of a hill in what was then a new estate in south Dublin. My mother would work at cleaning on a saturday, and I clearly remember running down said hill (in true Laura Ingalls fashion lol) to meet her coz saturday meant new book day lol.
    Having devoured the accepted classics, I took delicious pleasure in hoarding the more obscure titles such as the one on the left here..

    and this one always gave me the willies for some reason..

    I could be a pretty.. umm insular type lol

    #192463

    now that rumplestilskin was the covers they had in my day does that mean im really old lol
    i was a famous five fan :) esp Timothy oh and Anna Sewell of course :)

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