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10 November, 2012 at 6:00 pm #514573
@mrs_teapot wrote:
I don’t agree with the death penalty but I agree life should mean life…. if however a prisoner wishes to take his own life….I do wonder why we don’t let them… I know Im a hard woman :?
I agree with you about animals Panda… makes me laugh that some religions consider them to be lesser beings with no souls… future generations will laugh at our silly religions…… hopefully :)
A very good post, Teapot.
I was thinking, people like Ian Huntley, Roy Whiting, Robert Black, Ian Brady child killers should be given the opportunity to end their own lives rather than cost the tax payer money.
If they don’t well then they should be given a bare cell and made to earn their own food, clothing etc.
In fact, that should be the norm for most prisoners – in the 19th century, they had a principle called the “doctrine of less eligibility.” This was defined as:
“that the situation of the able-bodied recipient of poor relief “on the whole shall not be made really or apparently as eligible as the independent labourer of the lowest class.”
By this, it was meant that the condition of a pauper in the workhouse should be not as attractive as that of the poorest labourer outside the workhouse.”
Ok, it refers to the now defunct Poor Law but I don’t think prisoners should be fed and clothed and given luxuries as a matter of right. Prison conditions should be as uncomfortable for them as possible and they should be made to earn things, just as a law abiding citizen has to do.
Education for rehabilitation should however, be mandatory so a prisoner has a means by which they can contribute to society upon their release.
Back to the thread – the US should remove the death penalty in the states in which it occurs – you cannot bring an innocent person back to life but you can release them after 30 years.
16 November, 2012 at 8:42 pm #514574@terry wrote:
Keeping somebody in prison for thirty years and then trotting them out to be executed does not seem like justice to me.
completely agree.
The western world is completely hidebound by human rights and the necessity of appeal, in order that a fair-reached judgement has been by proxy subject to a hundred lawyers dipping their greedy and well-paid beeks in.
What kind of world is this that we live in ?
17 November, 2012 at 3:00 pm #514575@terry wrote:
@jen_jen wrote:
@terry wrote:
Keeping somebody in prison for thirty years and then trotting them out to be executed does not seem like justice to me.
What would be justice?
You’re putting me on the spot here. :roll: It’s just an open discussion to find out what other people think about it.
Why roll your eyes at Jen?
Dont you have an opinion of you own or do you need others to make it for you?
You asked others to give their opinion so why cant someone ask yours?PS: i dont have a view on the death penilty. Some rtimes i think death is the easy way out for some and they should be made rot in prison, some other times i think hell yeah fry them, as it hurts like hell, the first injection only paralizes you so you dont flip around when your burning from the inside. Its the second and third injection that slowly kills you.
17 November, 2012 at 3:11 pm #514576@irish_lucy wrote:
Dont you have an opinion of you own or do you need others to make it for you?
Oh, I need others to make it for me.
18 November, 2012 at 3:21 pm #514577@terry wrote:
@irish_lucy wrote:
Dont you have an opinion of you own or do you need others to make it for you?
Oh, I need others to make it for me.
Here are your opinions Terry:
You vote Labour
You love foxes and no longer wish to bring back fox hunting
You love eastern Europeans
You love the EU Union
You love ObamaOk?
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