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15 May, 2008 at 9:49 am #335883
Sorry PB but ….
The television star was with his daughter Devon, 15, when he tried to buy six bottles of Budweiser beer.
But staff refused to believe his insistence the alcohol was not for the schoolgirl – and would not sell him it.
“I was dumbfounded,” said Mr Zenden.
“There was absolutely no indication that my daughter would be drinking the alcohol – it was for me.
“I fancied a nice cool beer on a warm evening.
“But the woman told me that they don’t sell alcohol to people who have children with them.”
Tesco today said they trained their store workers to ask for proof of age for anyone present at the purchase who they suspect may consume the alcohol.So what they are saying is if they are mid teens and possibly could consume it they wont sell to you,even if you insist otherwise, so all parents with young teenagers cant buy alcohol from Tesco’s.
Also i believe… correct me if i am wrong but its not illegal to give a child over 5 alcohol “at home”!!! so even if u had a 15 year old with you that was going to have a glass of wine or bottle of beer with you at home there is no law being broken. it’s the street drinkers that get adults to buy beer for them that is the issue and they dont “as a rule” go into the store with the adult to purchase it in these cases anyway.15 May, 2008 at 10:08 am #335884Yes this referred to a Mr Dominic Zenden, a medium from Norwich with his own series on Sky TV (a television star?????). who was accompanied by his 15 year old daughter, Devon.
It may well be that his protestations of innocence were in fact genuine; that the alchohol was solely for his own consumption; that he had no intention of buying it on behalf of his daughter or giving it to her as a gift. But all of this rather misses the underlying point.
The plain fact is that alchohol, particularly if taken in excess, has an undesirable effect on the drinker’s behaviour. We already have an example of this on these Boards from an adult ….. so think how much more damaging it would be for a child.
Retailers (including Teaso) simply have to play their part in restricting the sale (and therefore presumed consumption) to adults and do all they can to prevent children from getting hold of the stuff.
OK there will always be the Dominic Zendens of this world but I suggest to you that they are in a minority. As this policy becomes better publicised and more widespread, alchohol buying adults will simply have to buy their intoxicationg liquor without their children being present at the point of purchase.
Is this REALLY such a hardship????
15 May, 2008 at 10:31 am #335885i rarely drink so to me no, but my son is always with me when im shopping and i would object strongly if they did it to me.
As i have said it isnt illegal to give ur kids alcohol at home anyway, so where do u draw the line and as i have also said its the street drinkers hanging around outside stores and getting adults to get it for them are the worse ones, tesco’s would be far better off to use their security guys to watch what happens to the alcohol outside after it is purchased is it put in a car and taken away or is it passed over to unsuitables ? if they were in regular clothes they wouldnt be noticed and could deal with the real problem. French kids drink wine alot at home it doesnt make them drunks or binge drinkers particularly.
i think they are targeting the wrong people here, yes maybe the odd one looks dodgy then fair enough refuse, but having the policy anyone with kids that could possibly consume alcohol isnt right, to repeat “it isnt illegal to allow your children to drink at home” so if the alcohol is being stowed into a car and taken away what business is it of Tesco’s.
they need to rethink this one and concentrate on whats going on outside the store.15 May, 2008 at 11:07 am #335886well im sorry, but adults do BUY drink for underage kids…. I certainly wouldnt, but the sad fact their r looneys whom buy drink for kids.
15 May, 2008 at 12:39 pm #335887Time would be better spent stopping fat adults filling their trolleys with fatty stuff for their fat kids.
But there would be an uproar!
What is the difference?!
15 May, 2008 at 1:14 pm #335888Sorry Pol … but I think you’ve slightly missed the central point here. Tesco – amongst the hundreds of thousands of other retailers of booze – cannot be expected to ensure that their customers don’t misuse alchohol products, or follow them in some way once the sale has been made so as to ‘police’ the use of the product.
What they can do (and it seems are now doing) is to take action at the point of sale (i.e. when the booze is actually purchased and paid for).
I still can’t see what the issue is. If you want to purchase intoxicating liquor (as an adult) …fine then do so. All they are saying is, don’t have children with you when you make your purchase.
Why is this so difficult??? After all, buying crates of (cheap?) lager and bottles of (cheap?) cider – as the York housewife did – hardly sends a good message to the child that accompanied her did it?
The bottom line is that if you really have to buy / consume enough ethyl alchohol to stun a horse ….. don’t do it in such a way that children are encouraged to imitate you from your example.
If drinking to excess is your thing … why not do it in the privacy of your bedroom where your family doesn’t have to witness it.
Drunks are at the best embarassing and more often than not are downright nasty and vindictive.
15 May, 2008 at 4:19 pm #335889@forumhostpb wrote:
Sorry Pol … but I think you’ve slightly missed the central point here. Tesco – amongst the hundreds of thousands of other retailers of booze – cannot be expected to ensure that their customers don’t misuse alchohol products, or follow them in some way once the sale has been made so as to ‘police’ the use of the product.
What they can do (and it seems are now doing) is to take action at the point of sale (i.e. when the booze is actually purchased and paid for).
I still can’t see what the issue is. If you want to purchase intoxicating liquor (as an adult) …fine then do so. All they are saying is, don’t have children with you when you make your purchase.
Why is this so difficult??? After all, buying crates of (cheap?) lager and bottles of (cheap?) cider – as the York housewife did – hardly sends a good message to the child that accompanied her did it?
The bottom line is that if you really have to buy / consume enough ethyl alchohol to stun a horse ….. don’t do it in such a way that children are encouraged to imitate you from your example.
If drinking to excess is your thing … why not do it in the privacy of your bedroom where your family doesn’t have to witness it.
Drunks are at the best embarassing and more often than not are downright nasty and vindictive.
i know what ur saying and im not expecting them to do anything im merely saying if their concern is adults buying for underage drinkers which is illegal for them to drink out of the home then alienating customers the way they are doing isnt the way to go about it, and they are covering their @rses from getting a fine only and at the expense of some genuine customers. even i occassionally buy a bottle of asti for a special dinner or something i rarely drink so it doesnt actually effect me much directly, but as an over age customer i would be extremely embarrassed and feel like an idiot if i was stopped from buying it cos i had my son with me who is 11 but cud pass for abt 13 cos he is as giant lol, put it this way next time i want to buy any alcohol i will go to co op, so what have they gained from that apart from losing a customer and other sales i would have spent at the same time ? And what gives them the right to dictate who we should have present when we buy our alcohol anyway, im saying the focus is in the wrong place in my opinion, and they would and could catch people that are actually buying for minors and report them by taking there focus outside not at the tills, plus as i previously stated it isnt illegal for a child to consume alcohol at home anyway, so what has it got to do with Tesco’s ? nothing !!
15 May, 2008 at 5:17 pm #335890would be better spent stopping fat adults filling their trolleys with fatty stuff for their fat kids.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
15 May, 2008 at 5:57 pm #335891If your children are say 3 and 2 would you still be stopped buying alcohol? It’s not likely you’d be supplying a child of that age alcohol is it? :?
I think it stinks, this world has become far too pc :twisted:
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