Terror alert?

I don’t think it is a cynical ploy. Surely past events show that there really are people out there who want to murder us en masse. As for their tactics, they’re quite willing to experiment and vary. I seem to remember something happening on the underground one summer.

A note on Iraq: The wider legality of the Iraq war is open to debate. However, it should be noted that the government has won an election since. It may be argued, wrongly in my opinion as I will explain below, that the government’s foreign policy opened up this particular can of worms but the British people had an opportunity to topple them for it at that election. They failed to do so and thus legitimised it. It is the electorate that is responsible now, not just the government.

I don’t think it matters a fig what nationality the terrorists are. It certainly doesn’t to them. Radical Islam is a thoroughly multinational effort. Judging by the results of the recent Channel 4 poll of Muslim opinion, I would put the proportion of British Muslims prepared to either directly or indirectly support violent action against the UK and its citizens at somewhere below ten per cent. A worrying proportion but completely divorced from illegal immigration. These chaps are substantially home grown.

Now, it may be that groups like Al Qaeda use issues like Palestine and Iraq as anti-western recruiting devices but those issues certainly do not define them. Indeed, many Palestinians scorn and mock Al Qaeda for the group’s lack of participation in the struggle against Israeli oppression.

Radical Islam has a rolling program. We cannot placate that movement through negotiation and it is, I think, unwise to believe that we have put ourselves into their firing line through our own actions for a simple reason. This is that radical Islam’s ultimate aim is a worldwide caliphate underpinned by Salafism and an associated interpretation of Sharia law. Unless we would be happy to accept that fate for the UK and the rest of the world, we would always be at odds with the movement.

Incidentally, we cannot hang native born jihadists for treason since the UK does not retain the death penalty for that, or any other, crime.

I keep hearing this rhetoric about “British Muslims”. Surely this is a contradiction in terms? Brits are not muslims and muslims are not Brits! They are either foreigners or the direct descendants of foreigners. If they choose to live in this country in a peacefull manner then they should be allowed to do just that. But if they cross the line towards supporting or participating in terrorism, whether born in this country or not, they should be either jailed or deported to thier country of origin or the country of origin of thier forefathers.

You CAN become anything you want to be in this world but lets stick with the majority and not the insignificant excpetions to the rule. Correct me if im wrong Mr Belfast but aren’t the majority of muslims brown in colour whereas the majority of Protestants are white?? I think nationality has a HUGE influence on the religion you follow dont you?

dont go off on a tangent…..

these are extremists who are despised by the majority of there chosen religion counterparts

and they are terrorists….

they cannot be defined by their colour or what they wear

@drivel wrote:

Do you honestly think they are trying to blow up our planes because we are in Iraq .

If it wasn’t iraq they would have another excuse – perhaps a cartoon in a newspaper or whatever
These people are terrorist scum – they hate the West – full stop If they are found to be British citizens – then why were they let in in the first place, and more to the point being a British citizen should mean supporting Britain not fighting it

The 20% or whatever muslims in this country that support the tube bombers and other terrorists should be deported immediately – somewhere nice and peaceful like Lebanon – along with their families

Funny how we always disagree on Iraq isn’t it!

The alledged planned attacks on flights to the US was not because we are in Iraq HOWEVER what Iraq has done is to provide a focus, an energy and an outlet for disillusioned Muslims and extremists to use to demonstrate the West’s disregard for Muslim life over their own.

The current situation in Lebanon has a tally of about 65 Israeli’s dead and over 700 Lebanese and the West sit back and play ping pong with the phrase “ceasefire”- if this situation was in reverse, you’d probably be seeing the 4th,5th and 6th US Airborne landing in the Bekaa Valley and Schwarzekopf coming out of retirement to save the day. But it serves to show that a Muslim life appears to be worth less than a Christian/Jewish one.

Yes, maybe they would use another excuse for terror if we weren;t in Iraq, but what Iraq makes so much harder is for us, or moderate Muslims, to take a high moral ground.

Terror is evil, no matter where is finds its way and committed by whoever but that doesn’t mean you can’t seek to understand what causes people to want to blow themselves up at 37,000 feet along with 450 other souls