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We just had the annual “Easter” ritual (I say “Easter” because this is from the Babylonian Ishtar, the Jewish / Christian Passover isn’t for another month)
I am struck by how many organisations calling themselves “the Church” have this dogma that their members are “saved” because they sincerely profess faith.
Yet when I looked at what happened in the book of Acts when the original Christians spoke to people they knew when they received God’s salvation because they spoke in tongues (a miraculous unlearned prayer language given by God’s Spirit).
When I questioned the leaders about this they basically said things were different today.How is that being faithful or believing?
religion is fear
fear is religiongod is a tool used to keep the masses in check, the faithful are poor and downtrodden the bishops and the vatican are all very wealthy. i wonder why that is.?
Not really sure how the masses are controlled in a country where only 5% of Christians go to church
Actually he is historically correct. during the middle ages the Roman Catholic church used the image of hell and the concept of damnation in order to coerce and frankly bully frightened, and unintelligent, members of the masses so that they would pour money into their coffers which they then spent on their debauched lifestyle. One perfect example of this was the ‘indulgences’ they sold to people in order to give them a sort of ‘get-out-of-hell-free card’. hell even when the church split into protestants and catholics it was still pretty miserable to be a religious follower. To be frank the main reason that religious leaders are saying that ‘things are different now’ is because we as a nation (should) no longer be dominated by fish-eyed idiots who believe everything you tell them… (I’ve probably lost all context to the point at hand, but since when did that matter on this site)
You dont have to profess faith.
Commit every sin there is, and do it frequently throughout your life. Then when your on your death bed, call for a Priest, and repent your sins. Every sinner is forgiven, so this is your get out of hell card.
I presume it works for everyone from insane Dictators who murder millions to people who steal a Loaf of Bread.
@Forget Me Not wrote:
Actually he is historically correct. during the middle ages the Roman Catholic church used the image of hell and the concept of damnation in order to coerce and frankly bully frightened, and unintelligent, members of the masses so that they would pour money into their coffers which they then spent on their debauched lifestyle. One perfect example of this was the ‘indulgences’ they sold to people in order to give them a sort of ‘get-out-of-hell-free card’. hell even when the church split into protestants and catholics it was still pretty miserable to be a religious follower. To be frank the main reason that religious leaders are saying that ‘things are different now’ is because we as a nation (should) no longer be dominated by fish-eyed idiots who believe everything you tell them… (I’ve probably lost all context to the point at hand, but since when did that matter on this site)
Completely agree that historically religion was used to coerce, to subdue, to oppress and to extort the masses
But in the 21st Century, is there really a fearful mass who do exactly what their priest, rabbi or vicar says? Probably only in Islam is that level of obedience still in exsitence- the idea that the CoE keeps us little englanders in check is frankly laughable
You guys seem to be agreeing with me but from the perspective of outsiders looking in.
If the modern church was like the one that began in Acts, it would be more respected, but it seems more concerned with providing entertainment, charity works programmes and intellectual discussion for the comfortable middle class than promoting a God who does what no man can do.
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