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Labour are saying they will not work with any other party lol, Lib dems saying same lol.
I think they are both lying. ololol
Forewarned is forearmed. They want Boris to think this.
What we have to ask ourselves is one question, are Labour, the Cons and the Lib Dems, even SNP and Dups, prepared to put country before party? Because all of the above have spent 3 yrs saying a no deal brexit will ruin our economy, and now probably break up the UK.
This article in The Guardian on Wednesday may FINALLY answer your question Geoff….
The only way to stop the catastrophe of a no-deal Brexit? Revoke article 50
And so the only guaranteed way to stop no deal is to stop Brexit itself. Faced with an unprecedented national emergency, MPs could pass an act of parliament revoking article 50. This would satisfy our “constitutional requirements” specified by the European court when it granted the UK the unilateral right to revoke. It could also be done without government support, as with Yvette Cooper’s bill in April to force an extension. That passed in three days, while this bill would have more than six weeks.
For Tories, in particular, this would carry the advantage of not directly forcing them to bring down their own government. Moderate Conservatives did not sign up to Brexit at any cost and owe Johnson no personal loyalty, while leave-sympathetic Labour MPs such as Lisa Nandy have signalled they would also back such a move. Even if there was no time to clear the bill before 31 October, the EU might take note of the clearly expressed will of parliament to remain.
Read moreCertainly there would be a question of democratic legitimacy. Brexit was enacted by a referendum and should be ended by one too. Parliament could therefore legislate for a subsequent confirmatory plebiscite to establish whether people in fact want to stay in, or otherwise restart the process. MPs could conceivably (though at great risk) put no deal on the ballot paper for the first time. Revocation is the only option now because there is no time for a referendum before we crash out.
The Britain of 2019 is unrecognisable from the country of four years ago. A Brexit that in 2015 meant a Norway-style single market has come to entail our total rupture with every EU instrument, body and law, at any political, economic and human cost. Since the referendum, the Brexiters have refused all compromise. The hardline fringes have hijacked a slim mandate and reinterpreted it in the most extreme way available to them. No deal is the all-or-nothing corruption of a democratic vote, and revocation is its democratic answer. Like every other outcome, it will provoke a sustained political crisis. But in the end it may be the only way to save the economy – and people’s lives.
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BadderThanBadF.
Bessie, these are more relevant posts than some of the blather you’ve been posting,
but you take an incredibly thoughtless approach to this. I like to look at the ifs and buts, and when it comes to this, the whole problem is that people like you charge like a bull at the gate without thinking of the complications.
Just
I won’t bother to say how you get it wrong here, as I genuinely think you don’t read what you’re looking at.
But really,
BTW for someone who claims not to be a Brexiteer you do seem to be a big fan of Boris and his tactics @ YOU NEVER SAY OH CORB IS DOING THIS ETC AND THAT ETC ..
Just saying like
You really don’t read, do you? You must give a very supeerficial glance and then think that because it’s jc you can close your eyes and shout insults and get away with it.
Not with me, you don’t, Bessie.
I remember Boris from his younger days, and the man is a total charlatan.
Our new Lord President of the Council, the Man of the people.
Like Fat Boris, he cares….
Omg for once Chuka Umunna, makes a very valid point. Just now on the news, Chuk has pointed out the utter lying hypocrisy of Fatboy Boris, AND YES all Brexiteers! In 2016 Boris demanded we leave the EU to “take back control of OUR Parliament!”
Wait hold on, is this the SAME ‘Chuk’ who refused to run in the labour leadership contest because “the press were asking to many questions about my private life” yet spent three years criticizing Corbyn afterwards. The same ‘Chuk’ who joined ANOTHER political party while still a labour MP and who REFUSED to hold a by-election. The same ‘Chuk’ who then jumped ship again to the Lib Dem austerity oppressors when Change UK disappeared like a fart in the wind and REFUSED to hold a by-election for the second time and who had previously described the Lib Dems “can’t trust a word they say” and that to support the Lib dems was a betrayal after their austerity.
I know it is pointless debating these Remain drones and I will not be debating but holding up the SNAKE Chuk now as a beacon of democracy just demonstrates how brainwashed these Remain cultists are.
DON’T YOU JUST LOVE TO SAY “I TOLD YOU SO”IT’S HAPPENED, BREXIT YES YOU HAVE DONE IT >>>>>THE GDP FIGURES TODAY SHOW THE UK ECONOMY HAS SHRUNK BY 0 .2 % INTHE LAST QUARTER, THAT IS THE SECOND DROP IN A ROW, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT GROWTH HAS TURNED NEGATIVE SINCE 2012IF THIS IS REPEATED IN THE NEXT QUARTER (AND I DO NOT SEE ANY REASON TO SUPPOSE IT WILL NOT, ESPECIALLY IF MAD BORIS GETS HIS WAY), WELL HEY PRESTO THE UK WILL OFFICIALLY BE IN RECESSION!!!!!!!Mark Carney WAS RIGHT LOLThe UK is now officially a guinea pigs paw step away from recession lmao!ALL thanks to Brexit ahahahaahWell done u fkin stupid Brexit voters lol and we have not even been dragged out with no deal yet lol, yes things CAN only get worse!I do love to say ” I TOLD YOU SO”ALL THE PAST TEN YRS OF AUSTERITY FOR FKIN NOWT !And the cons fought the last 3 elections on “Labour cannot manage the economy!”lolol it’s class.Perfect timing this lol
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This reply was modified 5 years, 5 months ago by BadderThanBadF.
PML LMAO RATF………….politics always brings out the worst in people..
There is a famous saying @ “If it ain’t broke don’t fix it” @ the best deal we will ever get in Europe is the one we ALREADY have! Hence the almost 4 yrs of desperately seeking something better, AND NOT GETTING ANYWHERE CLOSE!
There is also another famous quotation, @
“We get a damned good deal from the EU”
Go on triple score points to anyone who can say who said that one
Answers on a postcard, please.
Ok, I shall make it easy for you. His first name IS “Fatboy”. But his second name is NOT “Slim” lmao
Said 4 years ago in Brussels many times apparently, and EU officials have gone on the record quoting the blonde bombshell himself. Fatboy has, of course, denied it, (not like him to lie though is it ?)
Maybe Fatboy ought to praise you like he should Badder?………….LMAO RATF PML…….slim chance of that though…..LMAO RATF PML
Labour are saying they will not work with any other party lol, Lib dems saying same lol.
No. That’s not what they’re saying.
The Labour leadership are saying that a Labour Government headed by Corbyn is the only outcome they are prepared to tolerate. The LibDems are saying that they will never support a Government headed by Corbyn.
I think they are both lying. ololol
Forewarned is forearmed. They want Boris to think this.
No but yes.
They’re not interested in what Boris thinks about this, imho, but they are at the beginning of a game of poker as to whether the LibDems can poach more Remoan Labour voters, or whether Labour can recapture those already poached. The LibDem reply has caused a lot of anger among Remainers because of its partisan nature.
If – if – Boris loses a Vote of No Confidence (far from certain), then for 14 days all is to play for.
As for your earlier Grauniad piece on revoking Article 50 – now, that would be nice (for me, as a Remoaner) – but it would be totally undemocratic. The people voted for Brexit, and Parliament has agreed to accept the referendum result (the referendum was advisory only, not mandatory). You can’t go back on it without a new referendum. If parliament is unable to agree on the sort of Bexit it wants, then a new referendum is needed.
Revoking Article 50 is acceptable only at the last minute if the Government has ignored Parliament’s will that n-deal is unacceptable. But parliament has to be sitting at that point, whihc is something Fat Boris will try to avoid.
I hope you’ve got over the superficial impression that if someone isn’t sounding like a football shouter, they’re must be pro-Brexit.
By all means shout like the best of the JC Blue Meanies, to show you have ‘bollocks (fake ones for you and all the others), but it’s not the only way to post.
p.s. I am not a blind Corbynista. Corbyn is a Brexiteer, apart from his unconvincing economic programme..
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