Super Nanny

@tommy-toxen wrote:

But any old bugger can have kids. Shouldn’t basic parenting skills be taught in schools ? Not everyone is a natural parent.

Yeah great, encourage even more underaged kids to get knocked up by some chav who will dump them and leave them alone without a future.

We should be teaching kids how to keep their legs closed, not how to spread them.

No Tommy I disagree – by giving basic parenting lessons it should put some of them off ! Lessons shouldn’t be given showing them the “wonders” of having kids – it should go into the sleepless nights, the discipline, the responsibility, the money, etc. If you ask the majority of parents, they will all agree that having kids is a lot harder than they originally thought.

@Titania wrote:

sorry ive only just come across this thread :? so i will apologise if i rake up an old row.

being a parent of a child with adhd i can categorically state that it takes at least 2 to 3 years of visits to a psychiatrist, plus talks with the school and parents before they are even put on medication, and the medication isnt thrown at them it is used with extreme caution, usually by sending them to a hospital for kids with learning problems everyday for at least three months.

then there are the outpatient visits once every six months to do follow up checks for height weight and blood pressure, and to discuss whether the meds need increasing or decreasing. i would also like to add that if a child starts losing weight because of the drugs they are taken off them immedialty.

adhd is an illness that is caused by a chemical imbalance in the left frontal lobe which causes the brain to work at half its normal speed, and causes behavioural problems that can be mild or extreme. it also hinders learning because a child simply cannot focus on one thing long enough to take it in. for example learning to read can be extremly frustrating and upsetting for a child with adhd that hasnt been treated, because they cant focus on the words on the page no matter how many times you go over it with them.

as for the bad behaviour side of it when my kid is on meds she is far from being a “zombie” she is like any other kid, she can still play and have a joke and a laugh and hold a decent conversation. however when she is off them (usually first thing in the morning and last thing at night), she has severe mood swings, which are sometimes violent. she cannot focus on getting herself ready for school, will not brush her teeth or her hair unless told by me umpteen times, will not change her clothes or look after her personal hygeine and even then only after i have nagged her. (she is almost 13 by the way) gets frustrated easily and extremly angry if she cant find something straight away, and will kick off into a major tantrum until she has found it. and the only thing you can do is let them get it out of their system because sometimes trying to help them just makes them even more frustrated.

im sorry some kids are badly behaved due to bad parenting, however i think there are also kids that genuinely do have behaviour difficulties and you cant slate all parents with unruly kids the same, unless you know the reasons behind the bad behaviour.

Titania – so sorry for you and your daughter – you definately deserve respect for being a conscientious parent and supporting your child.

Could I ask a queston [or three] ? if a child has adhd, does that carry on into adulthood ? is it a lifetime condition ? is it a 20th century condition or has this always been around but undiagnosed ?

I don’t really know anything about the condition, and think society just label kids with adhd as being “unruly” kids rather than trying to understand the condition.

@Beatty Blue wrote:

ADHD does carry on into adulthood. I happen to know that…
studied that kind of conditions a bit…

Going on drugs because of ADHD is a big question. Some times it would be better that way …it think.

There’s this TV-show on Finnish channel4 called Extremedudesons.
They are like Jackass, bunch of boys in their 20’s who do some crazy stuff. One of the boys actually has ADHD and it really shows. He has injured himself several times and sometimes pretty bad. He has also caused his friend’s thumb abutation. Some times I wonder if that guy will be alive to see next year… he could atleast try some pills.

OMg why would people want to do things like that it baffles me :roll:

@Beatty Blue wrote:

@becky wrote:

OMg why would people want to do things like that it baffles me :roll:

Well, it sells pretty good, they have their own clothing label (or what ever that is) their show is very popular and they get to travel abroad and meet some big starts.

And their parents don’t really mind if they kill each other :roll:

If anyone is interested watch the final episode of Viva La Bam, I’ve heard that the Extremedudesons are there…

I imagine its like dirty sanchez and thats just pure idiot…..sorry for going off this thread i will open another one :lol: