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How do you reconcile dying when you’re meant to with having free-will? Take what you said about ‘nothing you can do about it’: surely, with the exercise of free will I could strive to effect the time and manner of my passing. Otherwise, I’m not really exercising will at all. I’m just a swimmer caught in a current.
Do forgive me for being nosey, jen, and don’t think I’m just trying to wind you up but I have an interest in these things. Oh, and do also allow me to apologise for spelling Calvinistic wrongly. I will punish myself severely when I retire to beddy byes.
Hmmm, you present me with a dilemma Mr Pikey for I cannot answer that question without going into a much deeper explanation of my own spiritual beliefs. All I can say is that I believe that dying when you’re meant to does not mean you have given up free will, it’s just not necessarily free will as we would define it. And even a swimmer caught in a current has a degree of free will, he can decide whether to go with the current or swim against it or to not swim at all. :wink:
I should have realised that touching on my spiritual beliefs here would result in more questions, and they are questions that are so hard to answer in an online forum and if I’m perfectly honest I don’t think JC is where I want to be doing that. Not for fear of ridicule, for I am comfortable in my beliefs and quite happy for others to hold onto their beliefs regardless of how different they may be to mine – we all have our own path and our own truth to follow.
I don’t know much about Calvinism, what I do know of it doesn’t resonate with me so please forgive my ignorance there. I do hope you didn’t punish yourself too harshly, or if you did, then I hope you enjoyed it :wink: :lol:
I too have strong spirtual beleifs, I do beleive too that our lives are to a certain extent ‘mapped out’ however , our ‘free will’ does take us off the course from time to time but we are, i beleive in the ‘place’ we should be for the most part.
Like you Jen my beleifs are deep rooted and you are right when you say a forum is probably not the place to air or discuss them.
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