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@Lambrini Girl wrote:
To cite Talksport as a genuine source of information regarding the Stephen Lawrence’s case
:D I didnt do that. Can you remember what you asked me…
@tommy ToXen wrote:
I have to say, on this issue, that I agree with Emma 100%
OK yes murder is very wrong. But why should Stephen Lawrence get all this (probably unwanted) publicity and have the politically correct communists in government label it a racist crime etc etc
Shouldn’t all murder, regardless of colour be treat the same?!
Was it proven that the murder was racially motivated? Did they actually confess it in the courtroom? The Jury, Solicitors & The Judge wasn’t there when he was killed, how do they know Stephen wasn’t gobbing off or acting like a chav pretending to be like one of his gangster rap artists
Thats exactly what I pointed out early in this thread Tommy – when I was subject to one of magoo’s inane rants
What does ot matter what colour person was killed – why label it racist ???
5 white blokes kill a coloured guy – 1 dead guy
5 white blokes kill a homosexual – 1 dead guy
5 white blokes kill a guy for his money – 1` dead guy
5 black blokes kill a white guy – 1 dead guywhy label them – as racist , homophibic or whatever – murder is murder -shoudl all be treat the same way
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Late on 22 April an 18-year-old A-level student called Stephen Lawrence and his friend Duwayne Brooks were making their way home after spending the day together.
The boys were rushing to catch a bus in the south-east London suburb of Eltham – Stephen was already late – when they were confronted by a gang of white youths.
The gang set upon Stephen. A stunned and helpless Duwayne briefly watched in paralysed silence, before he was chased off by one of the white youths.
Driven by fear and adrenaline, Stephen, managed to scramble free as Duwayne urged him to “just run”. But he had been beaten badly and was bleeding profusely.
He collapsed after 200 yards in a pool of blood and died.
Full story here.
@tommy ToXen wrote:
And all this is fact, or just the word of his girlfriend?
Were there live television cameras there where they could hear sound clearly to confirm he didn’t say anything to these youths, and on these tv cameras were the youths heard shouting racial abuse??
Murder is murder full stop. To say the murder of a black person is more important than the murder of a white person is quite racist I’d say.
Who said that a black persons murder is more important? What a ridiculous statement. I think this case is getting more press because of the disingenuous activities within the case, not because someone was black. And so what if he was ‘gobbing'(quote) off, is that a reason to be murdered?
When push comes to shove, regardless of who said what to whom, when this young man died, the investigation afterwards was a shambles. It’s been well-known for years that within the police force there has been racism. With galant efforts this kind of behaviour has tried to be stamped out. But no one can make anyone stop being racist. Stephen Lawrence was murdered. Because of incompetence his murder was never investigated properly. I don’t care who you are, if a member of your family was murdered for whatever reason, and you were treated in the way his family were treated, you would be crying out for proper justice. Underneath our skins, we are all the same, bone, blood, sinew, muscle, and a heart. Time to stop looking at the skin and realising what lies underneath.
There can’t be enough coverage given to the Steven Lawrence case as far as I am concerned. What went on there MUST be examined by all of us. Why are gangs able to murder innocent people in broad daylight? Why can British people not be accepted in certain parts of the country if their skin is a different colour or if they have different religious beliefs? Why are some policemen able to be bribed? Why can we not bring criminals to justice? If we want people to have any quality of life we NEED victims of crime (and think of all the rape victims that don’t make formal complaints) to be confident that we as a society will never let any stone be left unturned until the criminals are brought to justice, even when the ‘system’ lets them down. If you consider yourself British then surely you are in favour of a level playing field for all? The Steven Lawrence case deals with many different issues where the playing field is not level, THAT’S why it deserves so much coverage. Thank feck the media are not letting it drop because if we ever accept the failures of our system and institutions then we cease to progress as humans.
@Lambrini Girl wrote:
That you are a blinkered individual, who can’t be bothered to read anybody else’s opinion .. who.. when you do … selects (god knows what actually) and manages to turn it into (god knows what again) but it strangely always happens to fit your agenda.
Contradiction is your strong point :wink:
As you did ask … There is more! You find it impossible to sustain a sensible argument, as you are hell bent on converting, not listening. Therefore, when things do not go according to plan, you resort to aggressive defensive tactics, which in themselves are usually completely devoid of any substance.
I must say, you are brilliant at contradiction 10/10.
Case in point, your continuous assumption that nobody has yet been able to demonstrate the racial tendencies of the BNP … They have… many times … You just ignored them.
:roll: SHOW ME THEIR RACIST?
I respect poster Magoo, he has good things to say. I asked him twice to prove that the BNP are racist, no reply.That you hold the views that you do is your cross
You know what cross is then :wink:
To waffle on endlessly about how great the BNP is, and how shyte all others are only serves to question your sanity … not ours.
Your waffling…if im wrong, PROVE ME IM WRONG, INSTEAD OF THIS FASCIST BEHAVIOUR TOWARDS ME.
You may have some good points though, as I have said before. But they do get lost in the amount of shyte you coat them in.
Make up your mind, can you do that…
As you did ask … May I also recommend you broaden your horizons? England might be an island …. but it isn’t the only one.
Arnt i allowed to be proud of my country? Have you taken on a dictatorship thought process now?
England is the greatest country, and it can be great again.
@tommy ToXen wrote:
I have to say, on this issue, that I agree with Emma 100%
OK yes murder is very wrong. But why should Stephen Lawrence get all this (probably unwanted) publicity and have the politically correct communists in government label it a racist crime etc etc
Shouldn’t all murder, regardless of colour be treat the same?!
Was it proven that the murder was racially motivated? Did they actually confess it in the courtroom? The Jury, Solicitors & The Judge wasn’t there when he was killed, how do they know Stephen wasn’t gobbing off or acting like a chav pretending to be like one of his gangster rap artists
Why did stephen and his mate run away when the incident took place?
Was it because they faught back and assult the five in question?
If so, was it self defence or did they attack first?
They ran 100 yards, does that mean they were partly at fault for his death?
You REALLY want to get a grip and quickly! WTF ARE YOU ON? Don’t you FOOKIN’ DARE try to suggest that ‘he deserved it’. And don’t you fookin dare try to act all innocent and say “show me where I said that” because that is EXACTLY what you were saying. You should be ashamed of yourself woman!
This was aimed at Emmas post btw – Tommy, you are way off the mark too.
@Ow£n Ka$h wrote:
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Late on 22 April an 18-year-old A-level student called Stephen Lawrence and his friend Duwayne Brooks were making their way home after spending the day together.
The boys were rushing to catch a bus in the south-east London suburb of Eltham – Stephen was already late – when they were confronted by a gang of white youths.
The gang set upon Stephen. A stunned and helpless Duwayne briefly watched in paralysed silence, before he was chased off by one of the white youths.
Driven by fear and adrenaline, Stephen, managed to scramble free as Duwayne urged him to “just run”. But he had been beaten badly and was bleeding profusely.
He collapsed after 200 yards in a pool of blood and died.
Full story here.
Nothing written above proves racism.
What the link says:
“The UK Government unveiled a string of initiatives after the Macpherson inquiry severely criticised the police for its handling of the Stephen Lawrence murder investigation.”No racism.
What the BBc said:
“BBC News Online examines the report, reaction and the background to the racist killing.”The same link “the ugly facts” link:
“…Stephen Lawrence was murdered in 1993. While most racial incidents don’t end in murder…”“The statistics can be spun to suit either case but both sides agree there are far more racial attacks and harassment than the figures record. A momentum is building to wipe out this sort of behaviour altogether.
The Stephen Lawrence case has been a catalyst for change.
Who are the bbc to assume it was a racist murder? They have a duty to all colours of people, who pay their wages, to report WHAT THEY KNOW, and nothing more.
Should the bbc be done for incitement to racial hatred? YES!!
Ive read a mamouth amount of suggestive lies from the bbc and media in general, this is nothing new to me, but if you wana live in a society that seems to accept this, then a future incited country will grow around you.
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