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3 January, 2012 at 6:32 pm #17130
At last!
Some form of justice, although it isn’t really. A few years inside for these racist thugs cannot compensate for the life Stephen will never live.
Now hopefully the other three will stand trial again.
3 January, 2012 at 6:36 pm #486955the appeal will make bigger head lines
blood that appeared after 18 years
sounds very suspect to me
who would trust the police
to sit on that pile of clothes then pop them out after 18 years with dif results
3 January, 2012 at 7:04 pm #486956@thin ice wrote:
the appeal will make bigger head lines
blood that appeared after 18 years
sounds very suspect to me
who would trust the police
to sit on that pile of clothes then pop them out after 18 years with dif results
If you bothered to follow the case you would know that technology at the time could not detect a blood stain that small. However, advances in forensics since then have not only made it detectable but identifiable as belonging to the victim. So reliable was this discovery that it was significant enough to warrant a re-trial where the truth finally came out.
If you want to imply these thugs aren’t racist, you should watch and listen the to following video:
3 January, 2012 at 7:21 pm #486957@panda12 wrote:
@thin ice wrote:
the appeal will make bigger head lines
blood that appeared after 18 years
sounds very suspect to me
who would trust the police
to sit on that pile of clothes then pop them out after 18 years with dif results
If you bothered to follow the case you would know that technology at the time could not detect a blood stain that small. However, advances in forensics since then have not only made it detectable but identifiable as belonging to the victim. So reliable was this discovery that it was significant enough to warrant a re-trial where the truth finally came out.
If you want to imply these thugs aren’t racist, you should watch and listen the to following video:
im implying othing of the kind
this has been a trial by media before it got to court
one might ask did they ever have a chance of a fair trial
and it took a change in the law to get one of them back in court
the double jepardy rule was changed a few years back
and one of them hadnt been previously chargedand lets not forget the colin stagg / rachael nicole saga not so many years back
stagg was hounded by the press
wrongly accused and even set up by the met
he received record damages before the police charged some one elsepersonaly i dont dont have any faith in the police
this will def be appealed
3 January, 2012 at 8:28 pm #486958@thin ice wrote:
@panda12 wrote:
@thin ice wrote:
the appeal will make bigger head lines
blood that appeared after 18 years
sounds very suspect to me
who would trust the police
to sit on that pile of clothes then pop them out after 18 years with dif results
If you bothered to follow the case you would know that technology at the time could not detect a blood stain that small. However, advances in forensics since then have not only made it detectable but identifiable as belonging to the victim. So reliable was this discovery that it was significant enough to warrant a re-trial where the truth finally came out.
If you want to imply these thugs aren’t racist, you should watch and listen the to following video:
im implying othing of the kind
this has been a trial by media before it got to court
one might ask did they ever have a chance of a fair trial
and it took a change in the law to get one of them back in court
the double jepardy rule was changed a few years back
and one of them hadnt been previously chargedand lets not forget the colin stagg / rachael nicole saga not so many years back
stagg was hounded by the press
wrongly accused and even set up by the met
he received record damages before the police charged some one elsepersonaly i dont dont have any faith in the police
this will def be appealed
I’m no fan of the Daily Mail but clearly remember the 1997 “Murderers” headline they ran showing pictures of the five suspects, where it is then stated: “The Mail accuses these men of killing. If we are wrong, let them sue us.”
And, before you state this is proof of “trial by media,” it is not. This trial has come about after a four year police re-investigation into the original evidence. If you know anything about the law, you will know it is the Crown Prosecution Service that decides if there is a case to be answered, not the press.
It is then up to the Prosecution to prove guilt beyond reasonable doubt, and this they did with the help of the forensic evidence – blood, hair and fibres which was already collected in the original investigation but which was too small to be detected by the forensics available at the time. So “new” evidence was bought against them and this helped, along with witness testimony, to convict them.
BTW – did you know Norris already has served time for a racist attack on a black police officer? No, neither did I – this was not revealed during the trial so as to ensure it was a fair trial. I doubt if any jury member, selected at random on the day to sit on that trial would have been aware of it either.
The judge also instructed the jury at the beginning of the trial to base their verdict on the evidence and evidence alone and to forget anything they knew, or could remember about the case. Of course, that they followed the judge’s direction cannot be guaranteed but then again you cannot accuse all 12 people of the jury of being swayed by the media either, unless you wish to call them liars for not basing their verdict on the evidence and breaking the juror’s oath they swore.
Regarding the Daily Mail headline, none of the five named and accused of being murderers sued.
I wonder why?
And as for Colin Stagg – he wasn’t convicted, the trial was thrown out which just shows you the British justice system does work which I think contradicts your own argument.
3 January, 2012 at 8:51 pm #486959we can resume this debate when the verdict is challenged
3 January, 2012 at 9:29 pm #486960@thin ice wrote:
we can resume this debate when the verdict is challenged
On the BBC website:
“In mitigation, ahead of sentencing on Wednesday, counsel for Dobson said there was no evidence he had been the leader or prime motivator of the group that attacked the teenager.”
Sounds like an admission of guilt to me.
3 January, 2012 at 9:56 pm #486961yea but you some one who thinks a fox is cute
not exactly convincing are you :P3 January, 2012 at 10:18 pm #486962@thin ice wrote:
yea but you some one who thinks a fox is cute
not exactly convincing are you :Pnot sure what a fox has to do with this thread but…..
For there to be an appeal there has to be a significant reason of doubt to contradict the verdict – whether that is possible I don’t know and it will be interesting to see if the defence are able to find a case for that
I do agree with the point that the press these days have a huge influence in peoples views of what could happen in various cases, for example the Jo Yeates case and the vilification of the landlord
3 January, 2012 at 10:24 pm #486963there were more than those two involved in the killing. The other killers seem to have got away with it.
The police bungling which led to this case dragging on for so long is one thing that makes it startling.
But the real problem is the racist atmosphere of fear of a different culture or just a different shade of skin, cultivated by jokes and lies, which leads a lot of ordinary white working class kids to think that it’s all right to attack and even kill black and Asian kids. It’s the white poor who end up doing the attacking – as in the USA where it was the poor whites (the ‘white trash’) who felt most threatened by blacks.
It’s not blacks, Asians or asylum-seekers who lie behind the threats to our living standards. It’s about time that a lot of white kids woke up to that.
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