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18 May, 2012 at 7:28 pm #496773
Although i agree in part with what Sgt said, (who mentioned Simon Cowell grr) being very much old school, i think anything anyone gets should be earned through bloody hard work rather than handed on a platter. The idea that these people get a platform to celebrity and fortune via the likes of x factor, where this is true in some cases, a lot of these people that have not only won but competed in these competitions have gone on to do other things, things that require a lot of hard work, so ok they may have been catapulted into the public eye and an initial stardom, But most have to still put in that hard work and improve their art to maintain longevity in this chosen career.
They are not all talentless, though i agree that the word “talent” can’t be applied to all of them, but just because they have gone on these shows and many have already been working in this area for years prior to coming on these programmes, but this just helps lift them into the limelight, well ultimately, actual talent and hard work will then prevail, or not. A for instance, I watched Joe McElderry singing on the BBC Songs of Praise School Choir Competition as a guest performer a few weeks ago, singing live, and he was really quite impressive he definitely has a singing talent, that can not be taken away from him just because he was on the X Factor. As i said though future success and longevity is now in his hands.18 May, 2012 at 7:35 pm #496774Who is Shirley?!
Anonomity* for any pedants! :lol:
So, therefore, anonomitious perhaps?! pmsl
18 May, 2012 at 7:36 pm #496775Look at the facts pol: the X Factor rakes in £2,000,000 per episode just from people phoning/texting in on premium lines to vote. And the money goes straight to Simon Cowell.
Take away the phone vote and there’d be no Simon Cowell and no X Factor.
18 May, 2012 at 7:39 pm #496776@wordsworth60 wrote:
Well, if apostrophic misuse can feature here, I can repeat this story from another thread without apology.
I recognised the late, great Curtis Mayfield as I passed him in in Denmark St in London a long while ago. Got him to sign my copy of Melody Maker.
He was walking along on his own carrying his guitar in a bag slung over his shoulder. His reaction to being asked was “Are you sure?”. He seemed genuinely suprised to be approached.
Contrast that with the story of a friend of mine who worked as a nursery nurse: of course they have to check who the kids are leaving with during the hubbub at the end of the day.
So one evening she went up to a guy she hadn’t seen before, who was waiting to collect a child and asked him who he was. His reply was “Yeah, you’re right, I was with Spandau Ballet”. She couldn’t help laughing when describing his embarrassment when she said “No, I meant which child are you here for”
I can’t remember which of the Kemp brothers it was . . . . .
Not minimising the importance of Spandau Ballet to many, but as the guy wasn’t there for anything connected with his fame . . . .
Very good. And a nice taxi drive too
18 May, 2012 at 7:39 pm #496777not disputing that fact tel
18 May, 2012 at 7:59 pm #496778@terry wrote:
Look at the facts pol: the X Factor rakes in £2,000,000 per episode just from people phoning/texting in on premium lines to vote. And the money goes straight to Simon Cowell.
Take away the phone vote and there’d be no Simon Cowell and no X Factor.
Even if you weren’t around at the time you’ve probably seen the black and white film of Jimi Hendrix playing on UK tv for the first time. It was the Lulu Show!
Other than Jools Holland, how many mainstream terrestrial TV shows are there featuring live music? I realise the technology has moved on and mimed/edited performances are safer, but I think we are cheated as a result.
That whinge over, opportunities for singers and bands who want to make a living playing music are, as ever, at the mercy of the power brokers and X Factor et al are the gateways these people guard. I know the internet has democratised some aspects of the process, but mass media still holds the key to significant earnings.
Having said that, how are Marillion doing these days?
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