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20 December, 2016 at 8:26 pm #1012094
A heinous crime was recently committed by an American man on holiday in London. He had blue eyes. Stupid, stupid, Ms May for allowing Americans with blue eyes into the country. We shouldn’t be allowing anyone with blue eyes in since we all know they are violent and can’t be trusted.
There are enough people in jail with blue eyes to prove they are a danger to modern society.
Thank goodness we can all vote May out soon. She needs to be gone.
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20 December, 2016 at 9:00 pm #1012109Martin I think you’re missing the point.
20 December, 2016 at 9:05 pm #1012110How so?
20 December, 2016 at 9:12 pm #1012111A heinous crime was recently committed by an American man on holiday in London. He had blue eyes. Stupid, stupid, Ms May for allowing Americans with blue eyes into the country. We shouldn’t be allowing anyone with blue eyes in since we all know they are violent and can’t be trusted.
There are enough people in jail with blue eyes to prove they are a danger to modern society.
You’re conflating a physical characteristic (blue eyes) with a political / religious ideology (Islam). Which only makes sense if you think that Muslims are a race.
Thank goodness we can all vote May out soon. She needs to be gone.
In 3 years, thanks to the fixed term parliment act. But who would you want to replace her with?
20 December, 2016 at 11:19 pm #1012113martin is making exactly the right point.
Islam is a theology, but it contains many divisions and most Muslims do not engage or believe in acts of terror.
If you try to restrict anybody coming in because they’re a Muslim, you’re going to destroy our society. Every young British Muslim, every British Muslim, is going to read the clear message that they are seen as potential traitors merely because they are Muslims. ISIS will become relevant to their lives, because what they’ve been saying – that the West sees all Muslims as traitors – will be brought out very clearly for all to see.
Every little white nutjob is going to see Muslims as a legitimate target whenever an atrocity happens.
You’ll turn a very difficult policing action into a potential civil war, where radicals will be shielded by the Moslem community, and where that community will be seen as the enemy.
The exact opposite of what needs to be done to defeat the terrorists; the exact thing that ISIS wants.
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20 December, 2016 at 11:49 pm #1012114martin is making exactly the right point.
No, not really. Being a muslim (with extreme views) is a choice. You can’t choose to stop having blue eyes. There is a very significant difference because of this.
Every young British Muslim, every British Muslim, is going to read the clear message that they are seen as potential traitors merely because they are Muslims
If they take this view, then they are already traitors. If immigration from athiest majority countries (which don’t exist) were restricted for this reason (atheist terrorists do exist, in Turkey). Then I wouldn’t think that I would be viewed as a traitor in my own country.
because what they’ve been saying – that the West sees all Muslims as traitors – will be brought out very clearly for all to see.
That extremist muslims are harmful to our society, but there is no way to distingush them.
You’ll turn a very difficult policing action into a potential civil war
You’re turning it into a guarenteed civil war if you do nothing.
where radicals will be shielded by the Moslem community
This already happens, see the attacks in Belgium.
The exact opposite of what needs to be done to defeat the terrorists; the exact thing that ISIS wants.
The oposite would be opening the borders? Are you insane?
How many more innocent people have to be killed before you realise the threat to our existance?
I really don’t want to take such actions, but I see no other choice if we are to protect the lives of British people.
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20 December, 2016 at 11:57 pm #1012115concrete bollards would not stop a juggernaut nor would stingers though they would slow it down. there are metal bollards designed to stop virtually a tank .they rise up from ground. they already use these around world and can definitely stop a 40 ton loaded lorry at 60mph. true it writes off bollard but vehicle itself is reduced to scrap within 15-20 feet.
no easy answer to terrorists as its a religious thing. sadly here in UK this actual religion is treated with kid gloves as fear of escalation and violence etc from them. with Islam dedicated to world domination one religion and reward here or in heaven ..we have as about as much chance of getting full integration as UK landing on moon. shame as Islam name itself means ‘peace’ but every example seem sot be exact opposite. we need more muslims to speak out against the perverted ones whom seek to bring us into direct conflict with Islam ( the main goal as always ) with extremely poor immigration controls and as much effect on small ports and airfield s as sieve we are wide open for abuse.
21 December, 2016 at 12:10 am #1012116concrete bollards would not stop a juggernaut nor would stingers though they would slow it down. there are metal bollards designed to stop virtually a tank .they rise up from ground. they already use these around world and can definitely stop a 40 ton loaded lorry at 60mph. true it writes off bollard but vehicle itself is reduced to scrap within 15-20 feet.
Im not sure about that, I immagine that concrete bollards would just fracture at the base with such a forceful impact. You are right that destroying the tires would not stop the lorry, but it would remove the ability for the driver to steer it towards people. Rising bollards have a weakness in that the power to them can be cut if the attack is planned well enough.
shame as Islam name itself means ‘peace’ but every example seem sot be exact opposite
This is a misconception that I have addressed a few times on here, it means ‘submission (to God)’, the most charitable translation is ‘peaceful submission (to God)’.
we need more muslims to speak out against the perverted ones whom seek to bring us into direct conflict with Islam
The structure of Islam prevents most muslims from being able to do this, and even the ones that are willing are silenced by the politically correct atmosphere that surrounds the religion here.
21 December, 2016 at 8:54 am #1012122Muslims are free to practise their religion here. Good.
That’s because Islam is not an enemy – radical Islam is. Most Muslims do not accept terrorism.
If you stop Muslims from entering the country merely because they are Muslims, you are giving a message that Islam is the enemy, and Muslims in this country and everywhere will see that you are declaring them an enemy.
You will turn a difficult policing operation into a potential civil war. You’ll be encouraging every white nutjob to take action against Muslims.
Islam is not my enemy. I don’t agree with Islam,. but keeping Muslims out because they’re Muslim is counterproductive. If someone was wanting to come into the UK to kill, and they’re told they can’t get in if they’re a Muslim, do you really think they’ll say oh sorry, I am a Muslim? Only non-violent Muslims will say that. The violent ones will lie, and will enter a community made to feel an enemy because of their faith.
Anything else is using fear and scare tactics to destroy any chance of defeating ISIS. You are the best friends of the terrorists – you are doing precisely what they want.
21 December, 2016 at 9:48 am #1012123How so?
Martin that woman, opened the doors of Germany and said “welcome to Germany, we can do this”. Since 2015 1.2 million migrants have poured into Germany. The vast majority of them, young muslim men. What could,possibly be wrong with that you ask? Oh let me think what could possibly go wrong, when you invite men from a stone age culture into Europe:
Cologne NYE….all those sexual assaults on women. Of course according to an iman it was the fault of the women, because of the way they were dressed and the fact they were wearing perfume!
Parts of France are now no go areas for women, cafes espcially, they are full of men. They dont want women there, and if they do go there, they should be with a man….this is France not Saudi!
In Austria…a migrant attacked a TEN year old boy in the changing rooms and raped him. His excuse? It was a sexual emergency because he hadnt had sex for four months!
In Germany in the swimming pools, they have to put up signs to explain to fhe migrants that they mustn’t touch the women.
These men simply dont understand that women are not pieces of meat to be groped at.
How many more reasons do you need? In parts of the UK…armed police are on patrol in case of a terror attack. These things never happened when I was a kid! But now….we have to embrace mulitculturalism……otherwise we are racist….working well isnt it?
How many more candlight vigils and lit up buildings arround the world are there going to be Martin? Because that works doesnt it? Meanwhile more familes are left devastated again, because of the murdering scum Merkel has let into Europe. ISIS took full advantage of the ‘refugee’ crisis and said they would hide terrorists amongst them. Well that DID work didnt it? Here they are, destroying innocent peoples lives….again. Now where are those candles?
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