Smoking or non smoking?

@emmalush wrote:

Sharon makes great points, as usual. The tax raised through the sale of tobacco products continues to be a major source of revenue for the Government, contributing around £10 billion annually. This is, according to the Treasury, equivalent to almost 3 pence on the basic rate of income tax or 12 pence on the top rate of income tax.
http://www.the-tma.org.uk/page.aspx?page_id=10

This poxy government keep drilling into us about choice, well they aint giving folk the choice to smoke, its no, no and NO, you do as we say.

Its a dangerous move, smokers will vote against them, but of course, the ban is after the may local elections…

Classic catch 22- ban smoking and lose revenue but long term gain through less people in hospital due to smoking related diseases- there isn’t a right answer for this one

Sharon- have to disagree- everyone has rights etc and everyone will die but ever seen anyone cough their lungs up (i mean literally, huge chunks of bloody organ) in the last stages of lung cancer- n guess what, when you’re young, n fit and think you can take on the world, you don’t believe it’ll ever happen to you- when your in your 60’s n mortality looms n you get the call from the GP saying, “sorry, Mrs Gooner but Im afraid the tests have come back n it’s lung cancer”- I can categorically guarrantee, you will dread your death with a fear and passion you didnt think possible and you will wish, every single day, that you hadnt smoked.

But as you say, its your right to die in a fashion that, were you an animal you would have been put down long before the end

It’s probably been said before but if a company today tried to market a brand new, never heard of before product called a cigarette, it would be considered a Class A drug n banned n the company would be closed down.

Banning smoking in a public place is right and proper

@emmalush wrote:

@slayer wrote:

Banning smoking in a public place is right and proper

No its not, who are you to say a public house should ban smoking?

You just dont believe in individual choice, you are a communistic dictator who believes we should all walk the same steps as the person infront.

I’m not anyone to say smoking should be banned, the government have already done it. I support it- n don’t quote individual choice at me

If I chose to take a gun n spread the brains of 20 people across the high street pavement- is that alright because it was my individual choice to do so?

Individual choice is about responsibility- anarchy is about choice without responsibility

@slayer wrote:

@emmalush wrote:

Sharon makes great points, as usual. The tax raised through the sale of tobacco products continues to be a major source of revenue for the Government, contributing around £10 billion annually. This is, according to the Treasury, equivalent to almost 3 pence on the basic rate of income tax or 12 pence on the top rate of income tax.
http://www.the-tma.org.uk/page.aspx?page_id=10

This poxy government keep drilling into us about choice, well they aint giving folk the choice to smoke, its no, no and NO, you do as we say.

Its a dangerous move, smokers will vote against them, but of course, the ban is after the may local elections…

Classic catch 22- ban smoking and lose revenue but long term gain through less people in hospital due to smoking related diseases- there isn’t a right answer for this one

Sharon- have to disagree- everyone has rights etc and everyone will die but ever seen anyone cough their lungs up (i mean literally, huge chunks of bloody organ) in the last stages of lung cancer- n guess what, when you’re young, n fit and think you can take on the world, you don’t believe it’ll ever happen to you- when your in your 60’s n mortality looms n you get the call from the GP saying, “sorry, Mrs Gooner but Im afraid the tests have come back n it’s lung cancer”- I can categorically guarrantee, you will dread your death with a fear and passion you didnt think possible and you will wish, every single day, that you hadnt smoked.

But as you say, its your right to die in a fashion that, were you an animal you would have been put down long before the end

I watched my father in law die from it 4 years ago in an nhs bed. He had messed himself and there were no nurses available to change him and give him some dignity in his final hours. The last 48 hours of his life were something I would hate to see again. If he had a plug attached to him that I could have flicked off I would have done it, sod the consequences.

He never smoked.

My Grandad died of lung cancer.

He never smoked.

You get whatever life deals you, I dont think you can change that, but I understand what you are saying.

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