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    Ge

    I am still waiting for Slippery to explain his opening statement. How a ‘transgender woman’ can physically rape another woman? I think slippery has confused a man posing as a transgender woman to fool the namby pamby liberal establishment in order to gain access to women to abuse, a man with a history of violent rape and sexual abuse. My main point however is this, Slippery chooses to use such titillating provocative language in order to elicit a negative response and then demonstrate how liberal and reasonable he claims to be in regards to such issues. Slipery actually does a disservice to the causes he claims to champion, in my opinion he reinforces negative steretypes and religion driven, that any sexuality that differs from the norm is deviancy.

     

     

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    ”So – leaving aside the petty insults – the argument is that transphobia and homophobia are caused by the propaganda of the Roman Catholic Church, or maybe by the whole of the Establishment.”

    Erm… No. Wrong again. No one said that. We were discussing the indoctrination by the Roman Catholic Church and it’s negative messages that bombarded it’s followers for years whilst covering up the activities of its priests ( as brought up by Sophie) as part of the reason for peoples antiquated misjudgements of people, when you went off on your tangent.

    Their was no argument until you made one.

    Strikes me as a piss-poor argument, and no wonder the insults flow when the argument is challenged.”  

    Sorry.This makes no sense at all.

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    #1108486

    I am still waiting for Slippery to explain his opening statement. How a ‘transgender woman’ can physically rape another woman? I think slippery has confused a man posing as a transgender woman to fool the namby pamby liberal establishment in order to gain access to women to abuse, a man with a history of violent rape and sexual abuse. My main point however is this, Slippery chooses to use such titillating provocative language in order to elicit a negative response and then demonstrate how liberal and reasonable he claims to be in regards to such issues. Slipery actually does a disservice to the causes he claims to champion, in my opinion he reinforces negative steretypes and religion driven, that any sexuality that differs from the norm is deviancy.

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    Really?

    Oh dear.

    The last I heard, rape could be committed by anybody,man or woman.

    But in  this specific case, what evidence do you have that it was a man posing as a transgender woman???

    Not what I read. I must have read wrongly, so I’m looking forward to your explanation.

     

     

    #1108489

    They are attention seeking freaks and should be treated as such.

    #1108491

    ”So – leaving aside the petty insults – the argument is that transphobia and homophobia are caused by the propaganda of the Roman Catholic Church, or maybe by the whole of the Establishment.”

    Erm… No. Wrong again. No one said that. We were discussing the indoctrination by the Roman Catholic Church and it’s negative messages that bombarded it’s followers for years whilst covering up the activities of its priests ( as brought up by Sophie) as part of the reason for peoples antiquated misjudgements of people, when you went off on your tangent.

    Their was no argument until you made one.

    Strikes me as a piss-poor argument, and no wonder the insults flow when the argument is challenged.”

    Sorry.This makes no sense at all.

    Really?

    So I misunderstood.

    my bad.

    So, go ahead. Sophie wrote an interesting post about the Catholic Establishment and the Vatican, and their role. After a confusing piece about the Establishment in general, you and Gerry sorted out that what you were really discussing was the role of the Catholic Church in reinforcing stereotypes.

    Couldn’t agree more. I’ve had arguments which became quite menacing with some of these people.

    Do carry on.

    #1108493

    They are attention seeking freaks and should be treated as such.

    I think that’s a bit of a harsh comment on Gerry and the Mooose, and I would defend them against it.

    But Gerry seems to have the idea that I am aiding transphobia by referring to the rape of women in prison by a transgendered woman, and I really don’t want to do that.

    So I’m asking clarification.

    The story was widely circulated some weeks ago and was seized on by feminists to attack proposed changed to the law on the transgendered . I thought it was an actual transgendered woman, and when I just checked I was right. It wasn’t a man posing as a woman in order to ape women at all.

    The case has inspired a lot of debate on the television and other media in the last couple of weeks so I highlighted it.

    Apparently Gerry thinks this is my attempt to titillate in order to show how liberal I am. Hmm. Liberals and feminists are sharply divided on the issue, and the case was the focus of debate. I was just copying the main debate, admitting my lack of expertise.

    But Gerry, you must have new evidence on this. I’ll wait patiently, as I patiently waited for your apologies for Jo Cox’s Nazi killer. :-)

     

    #1108499

    Ge

    The last I heard, rape could be committed by anybody,man or woman.

    Brilliant, Slippery Septic the JC QC is also a legal expert who has now rewritten/redefined the law in regards to rape. Apparently women now have a penis in which they can rape other women with. People who have some understanding of this issue and Slippery doesn’t have a clue, understand that to a transgender woman a penis is an alien object that brings no sexual pleasure and which is why it is chopped off and before it is chopped off hormone treatment makes it not fit for pupose anyway.

    But in this specific case, what evidence do you have that it was a man posing as a transgender woman???

    What evidence do you have the rape was commited by a transgender woman, you made the claim, because he said he is a transgender to get moved to a womans prison where he could carry out more violent rapes on women?

    you and Gerry sorted out that what you were really discussing was the role of the Catholic Church in reinforcing stereotypes.

    I didn’t and haven’t mentioned the Catholic Church, I specifically refered to the religious driven establishment, Slippery old revisionist…

     

    Got anymore questions while you state that I am a right wing bigot, racist and an xenophobe and a left wing Jacobin?

     

    Clueless.

     

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    #1108501

    I’m just going to ignore Scep as he is very rude….

    If it’s the same case, which took place in Wakefield the transgender person in question admitted to sexual assault (sexually touching in this case) in prison, but admitted rape on two counts before going to prison. The person also has been charged previously with paedophilia , they apparantly identify as a woman but have not had surgery.

    #1108502

    Ge

    they apparantly identify as a woman but have not had surgery.

    From the Guardian.

     

    “Prosecutor Chris Dunn described White as an “alleged transgender female” who has used her “transgender persona to put herself in contact with vulnerable persons” whom she could then abuse.

    “The prosecution say that because there is smattering of evidence in this case that the defendants approach to transition has been less than committed,” he added.”

     

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/oct/11/transgender-prisoner-who-sexually-assaulted-inmates-jailed-for-life

    The Judge also indicated that this man will never be placed in a female prison again.

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    #1108503

    Ge

    but admitted rape on two counts before going to prison

    I stand corrected on that and I should have checked but however it reinforces my earlier statement. Slippery churns out his fake news (lies), in this case “transgender women rapes two women in prison” to titillate and provoke a negative reaction when he can then get on his high horse and preach how “tolerant” he is with his long blown sermons but in doing so actually does a disservice to the cause he claims to champion by associating sexual deviancy with trangender and which reinforces all the negative stereotypes churned out by the religious led establisxhment over the past 2,000 years.

     

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