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No Jamie, I’ve not pmd you, and won’t pm you. I hardly ever pm people, rarely go into the chatroom except to say hi to old friends like dd.
I was commenting on the resident scumbag who, after his temporary failure to accuse me of having my pants down with mooosey, moved on to claiming that I pm all the women here making myself a pest.
I won’t ever pm you unless you ask me to, but it’s nothing to do with your lack of ability to articulate. That means nothing to me. You get your meaning across, as does Linda. You’re a good person, I gradually realised, and that’s all that counts.
I told you a long time ago why I could never be friends with you, despite my liking for you. you may not remember the occasion, but I do.
It was when I gradually realised that the malicious and weird drunk who just came across as odd in the chatroom when i first came here turned out to be a really nice but very vulnerable human being. I started chatting to you and tried to be supportive. You were having a hell of a time with people in there, not least Joker.
I told you then I’d continue to support you whenever I was needed, but I also told you why we could never be friends.
If you want me to pm you the reason because you forgot it, then let me know, but the reason is not public. It’s nothing to do with the people on here; it’s not their concern. private means private. The word doesn’t exist in the scumbag’s limited world, and he seizes on the fact that something private is happening to slosh around in his mental swamp a bit more.
Nothing more to add, though I’m sure others will.
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Have you ever wondered why a man totally lacking in empathy such as myself was supporting you, Jamie, and not making fun of your grammar?
Has he ever went for a job theat he has no chance of getting because imagrints will work for less and work bloody hard for money that will make there life better.
I’ve lived a good part of my life in bad housing. And I mean bad – one of the worst slums in London, really bad. Not because I was slumming it, but because I was desperately trying to avoid homelessness. People who slum it go through stuff in the hope and knowledge that this is only temporary. I suffered homelessness once, and I didn’t eat for a couple of days once because of lack of money – that was in my early 30s. Not nice. Not slumming it. I had no hope of getting anywhere better.
My son couldn’t get a job because of Polish citizens getting there first. They weren’t immigrants, they were EU citizens. But as far as he was concerned they were Poles, the word ‘Poles’ said very angrily because he couldn’t get work. He was too angry and too young to listen, but he eventually did listen and got a job.
So yes, I know about it.
I know why the Poles came here, I know that British kids can’t get those jobs. It’s not because of the Poles or the immigrants that the Brit kids were left out, though, Jamie.
It’s because they are so poorly educated that they are useless for the jobs on offer. Poles were left after Communism as some of the highest skilled workers in Europe – Communism wasn’t all bad – but also in a country where their skills couldn’t be met. So they came to a country in need of their skills. Plumbing is the most obvious. Plumbers can make a fortune, and there’s never enough of them.There are a lot of good Polish plumbers.
The way round that isn’t to kick other people out so that there aren’t any plumbers (or nurses etc etc). The way round that is to change the education of our kids. And that is going to take years. And we’re going to need someone to do those jobs while our kids are being trained. And they’re not being trained atm because austerity is stopping the schools getting the money – among other reasons..
Im not talking plumbers nuses or drs.Im talking about factoery work ,labering jobs.Not evryone can be a plumber,a nurse ect.You just cant get that kinda work anymore.When i left school,i went right in to factory work.The pay was damd good the work hard.Thats what people did then.Lots of people,you wanted to go to uni,you were lucky enough to get the grades,you worked in a factorey,shop or chippie and saved.No chance of doing that now,you have to have thousands in loans that take for ever to pay off.Thats ok anything to get you there but you still have a loan hanging over you.What they actually say to young people now is,work your ass off in a factorey we will pay you less than you will get on the dole,you wont be abel to get a place of your own like so you will have to stay with your parents.
ITS not bloody working scep.Something has got to change.
I met a young polish girl at the airport few years back,she was at uni and on her way back to see her parents because it was the weekend.There is a school where i live,about ten percent of the kids are scotish.There are pubs where i live that you would not dare go in.Gun crime,knife crime,muggings break ins.These are the things happening here.I am in no way putting evry crime commited on imagrants.Howe ever the crime rate has rocketed.Most imigrants are hardworking nice people.Dosent matter if these people are nice or criminals,were losing out.
I would like you to pm me.I have no idea who you are.I was drunk for a very long time.Im sober these dyas.
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” I will support you in any way i can but I can never be your friend’‘
OOO how mysterious, dramatic and once again about you…
Supporting people and understanding why they sometimes act the way they do is being a friend. Making statements like that makes everything more about you than them. Friends take the shit with the good stuff, so why even bother saying you will support them. Why not just say I think you are decent and a good person despite any issues you may carry, why make it about you and why you cant be a friend ? Why even mention all that ? And lets be real here, whatever it is its only ‘your take ‘ on it. Really odd.
”It was when I gradually realised that the malicious and weird drunk who just came across as odd in the chatroom when i first came here turned out to be a really nice but very vulnerable human being. ”
Well I’ve been coming to JC longer than you Scep, not that that is anything to be proud of, I often do take a sabbatical for obvious reasons ….
The above statement is so flawed. Its fine if you don’t like Jamie, or didn’t ‘like’ her but its just so wrong in it’s aim. So you admit you were ‘new’ to the room , yet describe her as malicious and weird ? Being drunk doesn’t automatically make someone in ‘the wrong’,or the aggressor. Malicious ? why ? how ? because she was drunk ? Yes maybe drunk, but also reacting to attacks and maliciousness continually aimed at her over years, and defending herself in some cases, drunk, yes as in not expressing herself well. Being ‘new ‘ to the situation , well you obviously can’t have known the whole situation. This false, quite frankly late in the day and sanctimonious, forgiving statement is sickly, IMO.
“You get your meaning across as does Linda.”
Geez..not sure how to take the remark! Grateful you understand suppose, but something just does not feel right with the statement.
I feel like I have to be humble that some slight intelligence I may have is acceptable and your standards accept that. Wow..
Actually to add on here..not sure why..I feel rather low..thanks.
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I was feeling kinda low myself last night.I just want to move on,been hashed out a hundred times,what i have and havenot done.Dont want that anymore.I have to keep repeating that im in no way the most meliciuse person in f3.I dont hand out peoples phone numbers adresses scroll there detales through the room,rake for info on there fb ect.I have been a total fool in the past yes.Posting drunk,chatting drunk.I think i was on a mission to get evryone to hate me.I just dont understand why people would argue with someone obviously drink.I dont do it myself.There is a chatter struggeling with alcohol in f3,i have them on iggy,because the more you answer a drunk person back the more you wind them up.At one pount,i had 6 7 8 people going at me at a time.Mostly woman.I used to say awful things to get them back,mostly what they wanted to hear so they could get me banned.I admit thats not good at all but i cant go back and change it.I loved to shock,it gave them something to chew on.Im not that person anymore though.This has to be the last time i engage in this convo.Move on.Last time i sed that in the room trying to get people to understand i was told i was playing the victum.I know how you feel linda.
“You get your meaning across as does Linda.”
Geez..not sure how to take the remark! Grateful you understand suppose, but something just does not feel right with the statement.
I feel like I have to be humble that some slight intelligence I may have is acceptable and your standards accept that. Wow..
You’re far too touchy, maybe because you’re low.
You came under a lot of attack because of your style. People were saying over and over again that you were incoherent. You seem to be more direct in your stuyle these days.
I pointed out that it was your style – like a notebook.
People have attacked Jamie for her grammar.
I’m saying that her grammar really doesn’t matter. She gets her point across. So do you.
No need to read into it any more than is there. You’ll be getting like the Moose, otherwise lol
As you said, you were feeling low. And I was feeling tired at the end of the night.
Quits?
” I will support you in any way i can but I can never be your friend’‘
OOO how mysterious, dramatic and once again about you…
Supporting people and understanding why they sometimes act the way they do is being a friend. Making statements like that makes everything more about you than them. Friends take the shit with the good stuff, so why even bother saying you will support them. Why not just say I think you are decent and a good person despite any issues you may carry, why make it about you and why you cant be a friend ? Why even mention all that ? And lets be real here, whatever it is its only ‘your take ‘ on it. Really odd.
And how typical of you to read the worst into it and refuse see any other meaning.
Jamie seems to have understood what I was talking about. She made a very personal complain about my attitude, and I answered her in a very personal way. What right do you have to butt in with your sarcastic comments?
If she’s not sure about my response, then I’ll pm her – at her request. If she thinks I’m ebing insulting, then she should say (as Linda has said) and I’ll try to explain.
But it’s pretty insulting for you to step in and reinterpret what I’m saying in order to create bad feelings. Jamie can speak for herself, don’t you think??
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