Should Jeremy Kyle be banned?

Ms K, the main thing I’m left wondering about is what liberal élites are.

If they mean liberal élitism, then that would be clearer and would have more justification.

Nemesis wrote:

Working class entertainment is different??

Yes, working class folk don’t go hunting and shooting, or drinking in private bars, hiding their skeletons in the closet.

Nem,

When I say that working class entertainment is different – I mean, not from middle-class entertainment, but within working class entertainment. Some working-class people genuinely like Shakespeare – I know this from first hand experience. Some working class people love classical music – I was introduced to classical music by a railway guardsman who lived a few doors away in the street when I was a teenager. Some working class people like Springer and Kyle – about a million people watched Kyle daily. A lot of middle-class people hate Shakespeare with a passion, ditto classical music.

What’s the problem? Entertainment isn’t something which can be reduced to sociology. That’s all I’m saying – nothing more, nothing less.

At least the ‘liberal élites’ myth is being given a rest for the moment, but when it rises please explain more clearly. You sure you don’t just mean liberal élitism, which would be a more credible approach.

Nemesis wrote:

I really do fail to see how these type of shows are funny.

It’s reminiscent of the old freak show circuses. A spectacle where we can exclaim how were not like that.

Making entertainment out of people’s lives, their addictions or illnesses, that’s funny?

Yes, no disagreement there. Some people do find them funny, though, just as the freak shows with the bearded lady or the man wit three legs used to pack people in.

I’ve only ever seen two Springer shows and they were funny/strange. One was of a discussion between a Klansman in full regalia and a black guy going out with the Klansman’s sister, along with the sister. The same show had a little nazi in full dress uniform, who liked to wander around his house Sieg Heiling a Nazi flag and singing the Horst Wessel song. Now that was odd.

The other was of the guy who had legally married a donkey. I said this made me laugh, albeit guiltily. Don’t you think this is more than weird. not that someone has intercourse with animals – some people do, unfortunately. But to legally marry a donkey is weird, and then to go on television, on the Jerry Springer show of all shows, and to reveal it in the particular slow way he did, and then to tongue-kiss the donkey is asking for trouble – the outrage competed with the hilarity in the audience, a mixture of both, I guess.. The guy wasn’t being dragged on against his will, or asking for help. He was just giving two fingers to everybody, deliberately outraging the liberal élites, I guess..

I hope the American version of the RSPCA was in touch with him, but it may have been a Jerry Springer joke?

somer1 wrote:

thin ice wrote:

im working class

I go hunting

and shooting

im a member of a club

no skeletons though

So what gun do you own then thin?

Really cant see thin on a horse dressed in jodhpurs going hunting,Tally ho

Thinking of it i wouldnt wanna see thin in jodhpurs

as long as he doesn’t marry the horse