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20 July, 2012 at 3:51 pm #17892
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-07-20/live-blog-aurora-shooting/4144558
1 man arrested – 14 dead, and roughly 38 injured – WTF!!!!
20 July, 2012 at 5:26 pm #504041When Derrick Bird went mad over here a couple of years back and shot 13 ppl dead, Americans were posting in a forum I go to slagging off our gun laws saying if we were all allowed to have guns someone could have stopped Bird by shooting him dead!
Oh the irony!
In America, a bank was inticing customers to open an account with them by giving them a free gun!
WTF indeed!
21 July, 2012 at 8:59 am #504042Immediately after the Kennedy shooting, someone sent off for the same telescopic rifle which Oswald may have used.
That person gave his name andaddress as Lee H. Oslwald, Texas School Book Depository, Dallas, Texas.
The rifle arrived on time..excellent service
21 July, 2012 at 9:05 am #504043@panda12 wrote:
When Derrick Bird went mad over here a couple of years back and shot 13 ppl dead, Americans were posting in a forum I go to slagging off our gun laws saying if we were all allowed to have guns someone could have stopped Bird by shooting him dead!
Oh the irony!
In America, a bank was inticing customers to open an account with them by giving them a free gun!
WTF indeed!
I’m sorry to say, I think the gun laws in this country are too tight. They haven’t stopped an unregulated proliferation of guns on the street.
Ive always wanted a gun to defend myself, though I’d probably shoot my own bol lox off by mistake.
However, when my younger son was at primary school, somneone went on a shooting spree killing a lot of primary school kids (in Scotland somewhere? sorry, I can’t remember the exact details now). I just thought, I would want someone armed, trained and ready to shoot that man before he went too far. Sometimes it takes too long for the cops to get there.
21 July, 2012 at 12:02 pm #504044I dont agree scep. Inn america the other day two went into a internet cafe to rob the place, they were armed but so was an oap who chased them out while firing his own gun, he missed them and saved the cafe ffrom being robbed, hee has bbeen classed as a hero!!!
Now while the oap missed thee two armed robbers, what if a child was outside (or anyone just sitting in their car) and the oap shot them? He’d be a murderer and not a “hero”
More guns more death.
21 July, 2012 at 12:12 pm #504045@irish_lucy wrote:
what if a child was outside (or anyone just sitting in their car) and the oap shot them? He’d be a murderer
Or a manslaughterer.
21 July, 2012 at 1:24 pm #504046@sceptical guy wrote:
I’m sorry to say, I think the gun laws in this country are too tight. They haven’t stopped an unregulated proliferation of guns on the street.
Yes there are lots of unregulated guns on the streets but Michael Ryan (Hungerford massacre 1987) Derrick Bird, (Cumbria 2010) Thomas Hamilton (Dunblane 1996) were all licensed gun holders, deemed fit to have such weapons.
These crimes are the worst criminal acts involving firearms in the history of the United Kingdom.
Thankfully, they are rare but IMHO, the gun laws are not tight enough in this country. Sure, get the illegally held guns off the streets, but stop the nutters who legally own guns from killing ppl too.
21 July, 2012 at 2:04 pm #504047well, I’m not in favour of liberal gun laws like the have in the USA, whre in some states you can easily buy a RPG7 grenade launcher…
but when the school killing happened in Dunblane, our boy was attending a primary school. After the terrible shock and upset – those poor children, their parents, what if ours had been there??!! – I had to ask myself what would have happened if some nut had wandered through my lad’s school rounding up kids for massacre – or just shooting at random like Columbine..telling the killer not to be a naughty boy, or asking whether he realised that what he was doing is illegal, wasn’t going to work.
And I wouldn’t feel too good saying that my boy’s face has been blown off but at least we have the best gun control laws in the world.
You can make all weapons illegal, but if someone wants one they can get one, and if you know how you can get a gun cheap or even for nothing. It’s young adolescent kids who get them. Knowing that they’re illegal, it’s big kudos to tell your mates you have a ‘shooter’, and even bigger to start waving it around. The Columbine killers were kids, after all.
So tight gun control laws yes please,
but laws which recognise social realities. Unless someone arranges a situation where kids at least are protected against a Dunblane or Columbine killer, then I can only conclude that a responsible trained person with a gun should be located in vulnerable places. It would be formally correct, but in the real world irresponsible to say otherwise.
Not me. As I said, I wd probably shoot my own bol lox off as I fumbled for the gun.
But unhappily, very unhappily, a better response than the one taken by the govenrment – effectively nobody should have a gun except the State and killers – is needed.
If an effective alternative can be found – I’ll go for it.
21 July, 2012 at 3:08 pm #504048@sceptical guy wrote:
well, I’m not in favour of liberal gun laws like the have in the USA, whre in some states you can easily buy a RPG7 grenade launcher…
but when the school killing happened in Dunblane, our boy was attending a primary school. After the terrible shock and upset – those poor children, their parents, what if ours had been there??!! – I had to ask myself what would have happened if some nut had wandered through my lad’s school rounding up kids for massacre – or just shooting at random like Columbine..telling the killer not to be a naughty boy, or asking whether he realised that what he was doing is illegal, wasn’t going to work.
And I wouldn’t feel too good saying that my boy’s face has been blown off but at least we have the best gun control laws in the world.
You can make all weapons illegal, but if someone wants one they can get one, and if you know how you can get a gun cheap or even for nothing. It’s young adolescent kids who get them. Knowing that they’re illegal, it’s big kudos to tell your mates you have a ‘shooter’, and even bigger to start waving it around. The Columbine killers were kids, after all.
So tight gun control laws yes please,
but laws which recognise social realities. Unless someone arranges a situation where kids at least are protected against a Dunblane or Columbine killer, then I can only conclude that a responsible trained person with a gun should be located in vulnerable places. It would be formally correct, but in the real world irresponsible to say otherwise.
Not me. As I said, I wd probably shoot my own bol lox off as I fumbled for the gun.
But unhappily, very unhappily, a better response than the one taken by the govenrment – effectively nobody should have a gun except the State and killers – is needed.
If an effective alternative can be found – I’ll go for it.
My point is, it’s those that own guns legally in this country who carried out the three worst shooting sprees in our history.
So surely we have to review who we allow to legally hold guns?
The shootings carried out by “kids” with illegally hold guns – well there is a law that deals with them.
The law on assessing the mental capability of someone to legally hold a gun needs to be reviewed in this country, as well as the law allowing them to keep them at home, and the amount of ammunition they are allowed to have at any one time.
As for the USA, well guns are so easy to come by in that country it’s incrediable. Their constitution states they have the “right to bear arms.” Enough said.
21 July, 2012 at 7:40 pm #504049Hmmmmm ‘ tis not the gun, ’tis the shooter!
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