Shocking!!!

Ahh, you missed a distinct possibility tho pats (nice ass btw :wink: )

Were brainwashed in our society to pander to any whinging whiney sad case even when common sense suggests they actually deserve berating for their stupity or where they already knew better to begin with but chose quite blatantly the course of action that brought them to their whingey whining

But, that offsets a hell of a lot of objectivity in the baa baa sheepy majority

The possibility that every either seems to be missing or just doesnt want to be the first person to vocalise is the fact that its quite possible the parents are to blame or are involved, either to cover up something else or as a byproduct of something they have done, infact they could even have sold their daughter into the sex industry for all we know

We are too blinded by outdated and groundless stereotypes that no matter how many “rare anomalies” we see in the news still assert themselves as a primary perspective which then makes the rarer or harder to stomach possibilities the ones that are avoided which in itself helps them to occur more frequently by the very virtue of people working to avoid it being a forerunner in their thought processes and theories

Infact some of the other things people have commented on like the seemingly total lack of concern about leaving their kids, the less than expected levels of upset and even the uncle seeming to be quite smiley and upbeat when interviewed could be signs that theres a much darker truth here than being tossed around, and as its not uncommon for paedophillia to encompass entire families over several generations nothing can be ruled out at this point really

@johnboy25 wrote:

So Uber, you think kids shouldn’t be allowed their lives? They shouldn’t be allowed to do this and that cos there’s dangers everywhere? So what should they do? Do you recommend that they should be prisoners in their own home? The point was that not every kid gets hurt, not every kid gets killed etc.

I don’t know how you read that and assumed it meant ‘It doesn’t happen – what are you all so worried about?’ But again, it’s just one of your assumptions. And yes, I did talk about responsibility. But I think you’ll also notice that I said that I acted mostly without their knowledge, when I was supposed to be somewhere else with someone else.

Regarding mentioning kids wandering the streets – no I wasn’t suggesting anything (but then, we know what you’re like with your ‘then surely you must mean this, that and the next thing’) I was merely stating that where I come from, people are defiant in the face of these things. That’s the mentality round here. And no – I did not say that it is the right thing to do.

we are talking about a THREE YEAR OLD . she didnt choose to be left alone with her brother and sister. she is now ..god help her…..suffering the consequence of HER PARENTS actions! ok many a 12 yr old has said they are goin to their mates to watch a vid.and instead hung around the local shops. thats their decision. we are talking about the decision of 2 adults who decided it was safe enough to leave 3 toddlers under 4 alone in a room in a strange country.

Yes, I know we are talking about a three year old. But then it became almost like the rights and wrongs of parenting and how to look after a child of any age. I gave my opinion based on my experience as a child as some of the things being said were very different to the way things happen round here and I merely stated that fact (which Uber threw a wobbly over cos I wasn’t giving a valid opinion of every individual child the world over. Dunno why I didn’t, you’d think I’d know facts like that) I don’t know anyone who doesn’t allow their child freedom (depending on age obviously) Fact. You and others do. Fact. And I’m not talking about 12 or 13 year olds here. Most kids that age are already getting ready to leave home anyway!

We seem to have drifted way off topic and I’ll admit my part in that, I got too carried away with fighting my corner and waging war on those who try to tell me that I’m wrong. Incidentally – you can blame my mum for that! I don’t know anyone who would leave kids of that age alone and we were never left alone. Even if mum had to go out, our neighbours were also our friends. Another sign of the times – I hardly know any of my neighbours now.

Truce :?: And don’t tell anybody I backed down first!

@johnboy25 wrote:

Yes, I know we are talking about a three year old. But then it became almost like the rights and wrongs of parenting and how to look after a child of any age. I gave my opinion based on my experience as a child as some of the things being said were very different to the way things happen round here and I merely stated that fact (which Uber threw a wobbly over cos I wasn’t giving a valid opinion of every individual child the world over. Dunno why I didn’t, you’d think I’d know facts like that) I don’t know anyone who doesn’t allow their child freedom (depending on age obviously) Fact. You and others do. Fact. And I’m not talking about 12 or 13 year olds here. Most kids that age are already getting ready to leave home anyway!

We seem to have drifted way off topic and I’ll admit my part in that, I got too carried away with fighting my corner and waging war on those who try to tell me that I’m wrong. Incidentally – you can blame my mum for that! I don’t know anyone who would leave kids of that age alone and we were never left alone. Even if mum had to go out, our neighbours were also our friends. Another sign of the times – I hardly know any of my neighbours now.

Truce :?: And don’t tell anybody I backed down first!

no need fa a truce. its a message board. everyone has their own opinions.

@johnboy25 wrote:

Believe me PATS, if I didn’t try to put a lid on it I’d still be fighting my corner into the next decade!! It’s best if we agree to disagree cos it’s two very different opinions – I’m looking at it from the point of my childhood while others have the views of concerned parents who will have a better understanding of emotions that I can’t fully comprehend.

I think that you’ve hit the nail on the head there John boy. Parents will usually have an opinion as to the safety of their children that non-parents find difficult to appreciate.

It’s not that we want to stifle their freedom or to in some way limit their opportunity to experience life …. but it is all about wanting to protect them and shield them from all the very real horrors that are out there.