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It bothers me too, especially when you think about all those people who would give their right arm to have a child and would gladly make all the sacrafices that have to be made.
I know and work with a lot of new parents, especially dads, and they all hold the belief that having a child changes your outlook on everything. It has to be said as well that I hear that more often from those that have a daughter, and I also hear more about being a protective parent from them as well.
@ubermik wrote:
Of course its the parents fault, who elses?
I’m sick to the back teeth of this social ethos of a complete disregard for personal responsibility on every level except paying tax we seem to have
The less such things ARE vocalised the more they happen, which is pretty obvious to see nowadays, remove the blame for an action and more people will do it,,,, simple
Kids nowadays are getting more and more like fashion accessories, parents want to have kids but live as tho they dont have any. Its about time some pressure was bought to bear on parents to remind them that their children didnt CHOOSE to be born, and until they or the parents die parenting is their primary role in life and everything else should be a secondary consideration
If they arent happy with kids interfering with their social and work lives then just dont breed, equally simple
not as simple as you
the parents made a mistake one they will have to live with
they didnt expect their child to be abducted by some bas tard or bas tards
blind indifference to paedophilles is a bigger crimeAnd if they hadnt left their kids then none of them would have been abducted WOULD THEY?
If NOBODY did it then it would be quite hard for ANY kids to be abducted WOULDNT IT??
I think the only “tard” here right now is the person who thinks pointing out that these parents WERE completely and totally irresponsible with regards their child care in some way is the same thing in some weed smoking universe to being indifferent to paedos, care to elaborate on the actual connection delusionally tarded person????
Whether a child is abducted, just plain old killed or run over has nothing to do with whether the parent was or wasnt irresponsible and careless, whether they WERE irresponsible and careless is the only thing that decides that and these parents most definitely WERE both of those things, what has actually happened to the child is a completely different matter entirely, but one facilitated BY their careless irresponsibility
The world would be a much sadder place if these people DIDNT have to think about this every day for the rest of their lives, perhaps if they had done that already then 1) we wouldnt need to even be discussing this and 2) their kids would be safer
Bad or apathetic parenting shouldnt IMO be ignored out of empathetic sympathetic and just plain old PAthetic touchy feely crap just because something bad happens to a child, it IS that parents fault the bad thing happened because of how unbothered they were about their kids in instances like this and theres nothing wothwhile to be gained from stating otherwise but if it makes them and others actually start to act like actual parents and start to shoulder some of the responsibility they should already have been shouldering because of it then thats a bloody good thing as far as I’m concerned
If you give people a get out of criticism free card just because their selfish laziness cost their child their life then youre as good as condoning munchausens by proxy which is actually one of the worst forms of child abuse and is carried out by the parents
Indirectly this kind of thing isnt that dissimilar from MBP
so as a parent you watch your kids every minute of every day
what a to sserAfraid I have to agree with ROTT on this one…. The village appears a beautiful, quiet, safe village. I can’t honestly believe that her parents would have ever dreamt of leaving her and her siblings if they for one minute thought that they were in danger… Yes what they did was downright stupid and ignorant…… But it is done and now they are the ones….and their poor daughter.. who are, and will always, have to carry this burden. Some may so its a deserved burden.. I disagree. No matter how naive and selfish the parents are.. its the poor little girl who’s been punished.. Personally I don’t hold out much hope for her being found alive …Its another of life’s lessons for ALL parents out there.. we can’t watch our kids all the time..but to keep them with you at all times at such an early age is not only the right thing to do.. its part of being a parent that you wouldn’t feel able to go and enjoy yourselves whilst your kids are tucked up in bed…. unless your having food on the porch…….. Just make doubly sure that our own kids are safe xxxxx
Off the blame game topic – I watched an interview with her uncle, who had just returned home, on the Scottish news which seemed a little odd. For one thing, he couldn’t stop smiling while he spoke about how upbeat her parents are. After, what, six days is it now?
It just seemed so bizarre. And the implication in one of the questions was basically ‘How could this have happened while she was being supervised?’ when it is quite obvious that she wasn’t being supervised.
@johnboy25 wrote:
Off the blame game topic – I watched an interview with her uncle, who had just returned home, on the Scottish news which seemed a little odd. For one thing, he couldn’t stop smiling while he spoke about how upbeat her parents are. After, what, six days is it now?
It just seemed so bizarre. And the implication in one of the questions was basically ‘How could this have happened while she was being supervised?’ when it is quite obvious that she wasn’t being supervised.
MMMmmmmmm :? :? Makes me wonder as to what ‘they ‘ deem as supervision :? :?
Rott. when they were THAT age YES, they WERE watched every second of everyday bar when they were in bed in an OCCUPIED home asleep, thats not being a sad tosser, its called being a parent you hood cheese eater
If these folks had actually been being parents their daughter would still be safely with them, you dont IMO ever have cause however safe you “think” an enviroment might be to leave kids of that age unsupervised, because if someone else doesnt harm them they are quite capable of doing that themselves anyway, a 14 year old daughter fairy snuff. you’d ruin their life being overly watchful at that age, but were talking about 4 year olds here NOT teenagers and ones who werent even at home either but who were in a foriegn country so no safety could be assumed as it cant even be assumed here nowadays either when you ARE at home
So, if you think actually parenting a 0-4 year old child constantly is “sad” then what about this girl if she has been abducted and killed? Is that “just one of those things that cant be avoided” to the likes of you then eh?
One thing I would like to know though.. Are the other children involved going to be kept watch on now by the Social Services :?: :?: I believe they should be, to me this is neglect :evil: :evil:
@ubermik wrote:
Rott. when they were THAT age YES, they WERE watched every second of everyday bar when they were in bed in an OCCUPIED home asleep, thats not being a sad tosser, its called being a parent you hood cheese eater
If these folks had actually been being parents their daughter would still be safely with them, you dont IMO ever have cause however safe you “think” an enviroment might be to leave kids of that age unsupervised, because if someone else doesnt harm them they are quite capable of doing that themselves anyway, a 14 year old daughter fairy snuff. you’d ruin their life being overly watchful at that age, but were talking about 4 year olds here NOT teenagers and ones who werent even at home either but who were in a foriegn country so no safety could be assumed as it cant even be assumed here nowadays either when you ARE at home
So, if you think actually parenting a 0-4 year old child constantly is “sad” then what about this girl if she has been abducted and killed? Is that “just one of those things that cant be avoided” to the likes of you then eh?
a child was recently abducted whilst in the bath and raped
every parent lets their kids play in the bath while they do whatever they have to do
a child was killed when a television was toppled on to her while her parents had a lie in
the point is tosser you cant cover every eventuality
my first post said they were wrong
we all make mistakes
no idea if you have had kids
but think back if you had there will of being a time probably several when you werent as vigilant as you should of being
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