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25 January, 2010 at 7:26 pm #429361
@brigitte wrote:
away. The drug could be provided to addicts by the NHS on a prescription basis as methadone is now and the dealers would be cut out of the equation.
Good in theory but would we really want to see heroin addicts injecting themselves outside of the chemist on a morning.
The addicts on methadone are usually the first at the chemists on a morning and only just manage to get to the exit doors before they are downing their fix.25 January, 2010 at 7:31 pm #429362@brigitte wrote:
@pete wrote:
You could send them to prison make them go cold turkey (which lets face it works) the they could sue the government and win :P
pml here pete, like there’s no heroin in prisons!!! Go in with smoking the odd spliff come out addicted to heroin. And……………..then the Gov puts you on a methadone programme to make sure you are well addicted prior to release to make sure that they keep below their targets of opiate related deaths in released offenders.
There are prisoners who sued the government and won cause they had to go cold turkey in prison … true story
25 January, 2010 at 7:32 pm #429363Taxpayers have footed a £1 million compensation bill after almost 200 drug-addicted prisoners sued the Government, claiming that denying them a heroin substitute breached their human rights.
The prisoners claimed that their rights were infringed when they were deprived of methadone and had to go “cold turkey”.
A High Court test case involving six prisoners was going ahead two years ago but the Government agreed to settle out of court and pay £750,000 to 197 inmates in jails in England and Wales.
The compensation payments averaged £3,807 per prisoner, with four in Wymott jail in Lancashire receiving a total of £15,228 and three at Preston prison £11,421.
The overall bill to the taxpayer of £1 million includes the compensation payments plus the estimated lawyers’ fees.
The Government decided against fighting the compensation claims to minimise costs. It had been warned that if the case had gone to court the prisoners could have won even larger amounts of compensation.
The prisoners had been using methadone paid for by the Government but it was decided that they should go through cold turkey detoxification instead. They claimed that their human rights had been breached under Articles 3 and 14 of the European Convention on Human Rights, which bans discrimination, or inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.
At the preliminary hearing in 2006 Richard Hermer, a human rights lawyer specialising in group actions against the Government, told the court: “Many of the prisoners were receiving methadone treatment before they entered prison and were upset at the short period of treatment using opiates they encountered in jail. Imposing the short, sharp detoxification is the issue.”
The addicts said that their treatment was handled “inappropriately” with the consequence that they “suffered injuries” and had “difficulties” with their withdrawal. They claimed that the treatment constituted trespass and accused the Prison Service of clinical negligence.
A Prison Service spokeswoman said that the payments made were in response to a minority of the claims. “We successfully defended the majority of claims. We make payments only when we are instructed to do so by the courts or where strong legal advice suggests that a settlement will save money,” she added.
Latest figures show that compensation payments to prisoners have fallen from a total of £4.4 million in 2005-06 to £2 million in 2006-07.
there ya go
25 January, 2010 at 7:34 pm #429364Prisoners have more rights than ordinary joe public
25 January, 2010 at 10:14 pm #429365You are straying from the point, which is that anthrax has been mixed with heroin and sold to people who have then died. To mix a deadly substance with heroin is just plain daft. and yes.. heroin is widely distributed in prison, by inmates and probably by prison officers.
A large percentage of crime is drug related! But to kill off your consumers is just plain stupid. And I don’t think the crime fighters are clever enough to think of this one…. so…. its just an accident.
26 January, 2010 at 1:29 am #429366Prisoners have more rights than ordinary joe public
:roll: :roll: :roll:
The loss of liberty is the punishment….to withdraw the rights of prisoners is a step beyond.26 January, 2010 at 6:49 pm #429367Prisoners rights are not withdrawn, all they forfeit are their civil rights.
Mores the pity.and before you jump to their defence – think about the victims.
26 January, 2010 at 6:58 pm #429368The prisoners had been using methadone paid for by the Government but it was decided that they should go through cold turkey detoxification instead. They claimed that their human rights had been breached under Articles 3 and 14 of the European Convention on Human Rights, which bans discrimination, or inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.
Clearly…………their rights were withdrawn… :roll:
Prisoners have more rights than ordinary joe public
Can you expand on this????
26 January, 2010 at 10:00 pm #429369They committed the crime because of the drugs in all liklehood it’s a prison not a holiday camp. You know the risks you still want to do the crime then no whining when you get caught. Cold turkey is a cure they should be grateful
26 January, 2010 at 11:40 pm #429370The loss of liberty is the punishment….to withdraw the rights of prisoners is a step beyond
Rights are rights……..regardless
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