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@pikey wrote:
So, wouldn’t you count Manchester United as a ‘bigger, high profile club’, then? You seem to be under the impression that Newcastle aren’t a ‘big’ club. Now, I have no axe to grind. I don’t support any type of United, but Newcastle paid a world record fee for Shearer. That pretty much makes them a big club at that point in time, I think.
And how is it exactly, Robbo, that you get to be third in the FIFA World Player of the Year Award without being one of the best in the world? At the end of Euro’96 Shearer could’ve played for anyone he wanted. Why do you find it so hard to believe he wanted to play for Newcastle?
Just because you’ve no soul and can’t bring yourself to support a team that has actually got something to do with you, doesn’t mean everyone is like that.
I’m pretty sure it was a record british fee…No, I am sure as I just checked up on it.
Rooney has supported Everton since he was a baby, but he chose to progress with his career and win things. I personally do not believe that he had many options available to him with big profile clubs…Yes, United..But they were not willing to pay more than Newcastle offered…Why do you think Newcastle paid so much to get him in the first place(back then)? No one was willing to fork up that kind of cash, and United were far more richer than Newcastle back then. I don’t think Highly of him and never will…I’m not saying he was average, as he wasn’t, but i’ve never really been a big fan of Shearer.
He got in the World top 3 once…Well done to him..I hope he feels proud..But people shouldn’t be saying that he was one of the greatest players ever in world football, like I saw on teletext last night, as he’s not, and never will be…But he was a great talent in his prime….Just not as good as many pundits label him.
And as for your last little bit….Do grow up….I started supporting United before their huge success…So next time, do try to back your words up and make them a little bit clearer….
By the way, check the amount of players who play for these teams who are not even from our country, let alone from the town….Near enough every premier league team haven’t got a kid who grew up in that town, yet they are representing that team…I guess they have no soul neither :roll:
:lol: Let’s get this clear, Robbo.
@robbo wrote:
He was never in the top 3…In opinion, but not in awards……
Rubbish. Yes he was. He was third in the FIFA World Player of the Year Award.
@robbo wrote:
He went to Newcastle, because no bigger team wanted him..
Rubbish. Hitler Youth wanted him.
@robbo wrote:
We went for him about 3-4 years ago, while he was at Newcastle…We showed INTEREST in him..We never ever put in a bid for him, and it only ever came from Shearer….We didn’t want him before he went to Newcastle…If he had the chance to join United(when we was at the top of our peak)..He would have jumped at the chance…
Rubbish. Hitler youth tried to sign him twice before he joined Newcastle. He didn’t want to play for them.
@robbo wrote:
I’m pretty sure it was a record british fee…No, I am sure as I just checked up on it.
I suggest you check again; here, here or here.
@robbo wrote:
He got in the World top 3 once…Well done to him..I hope he feels proud..But people shouldn’t be saying that he was one of the greatest players ever in world football,
The point is, Robbo, that people who know a lot more about football than me or you were saying that about him at the time. You can believe what you want, in the end no one cares, but most people in the game itself disagree with you, evidentially.
@robbo wrote:
I started supporting United before their huge success…So next time, do try to back your words up and make them a little bit clearer….
:lol: My apologies for implying that you are a common, glory hunting little knobbo.
@robbo wrote:
check the amount of players who play for these teams who are not even from our country, let alone from the town….Near enough every premier league team haven’t got a kid who grew up in that town, yet they are representing that team…I guess they have no soul neither
They’re professionals, Robbo. It’s just the way of the world. It’s a completely different thing to a knobbo choosing to support a team that has nothing to do with them. Are you saying that some players don’t enjoy returning to their spiritual home, though? How about Fowler? Would Gary Neville be truly happy in any other shirt? Why do you find it so hard to believe about Shearer and Newcastle, in the face of all evidence?
I think Shearer would have chosen the Toon anyway – even if other teams were interested in him – although there didn’t appear to be a lot of interest in him .
He’s been a great servant to Newcastle – but he went there to win things
How can you call Newcastle a big club when all they have won for the past 500 years is the Northumberland Vase
The only way you will ever win somethign there is to get rid of the Board and Chairman – look how Hall and Shepherd villified the Toon supporters and Newcastle lasses – not so long ago Oh yee of short memories@pikey wrote:
:lol: Let’s get this clear, Robbo.
@robbo wrote:
He was never in the top 3…In opinion, but not in awards……
Rubbish. Yes he was. He was third in the FIFA World Player of the Year Award.
@robbo wrote:
He went to Newcastle, because no bigger team wanted him..
Rubbish. Hitler Youth wanted him.
@robbo wrote:
We went for him about 3-4 years ago, while he was at Newcastle…We showed INTEREST in him..We never ever put in a bid for him, and it only ever came from Shearer….We didn’t want him before he went to Newcastle…If he had the chance to join United(when we was at the top of our peak)..He would have jumped at the chance…
Rubbish. Hitler youth tried to sign him twice before he joined Newcastle. He didn’t want to play for them.
@robbo wrote:
I’m pretty sure it was a record british fee…No, I am sure as I just checked up on it.
I suggest you check again; here, here or here.
@robbo wrote:
He got in the World top 3 once…Well done to him..I hope he feels proud..But people shouldn’t be saying that he was one of the greatest players ever in world football,
The point is, Robbo, that people who know a lot more about football than me or you were saying that about him at the time. You can believe what you want, in the end no one cares, but most people in the game itself disagree with you, evidentially.
@robbo wrote:
I started supporting United before their huge success…So next time, do try to back your words up and make them a little bit clearer….
:lol: My apologies for implying that you are a common, glory hunting little knobbo.
@robbo wrote:
check the amount of players who play for these teams who are not even from our country, let alone from the town….Near enough every premier league team haven’t got a kid who grew up in that town, yet they are representing that team…I guess they have no soul neither
They’re professionals, Robbo. It’s just the way of the world. It’s a completely different thing to a knobbo choosing to support a team that has nothing to do with them. Are you saying that some players don’t enjoy returning to their spiritual home, though? How about Fowler? Would Gary Neville be truly happy in any other shirt? Why do you find it so hard to believe about Shearer and Newcastle, in the face of all evidence?
Pikey….I’m from Stevenage and half of Stevenage support Arsenal, the other half support Chelsea…And alot of other fans support teams out of their local region. Have they no soul neither? At the end of the day, deal with the fact that about 70 to 80 percent don’t support their local team. People like you, who have no idea about football, just claim that the next person is glory hunting if that person supports Man United, but you are wrong. We got Chelsea, Arsenal, West Ham, Newcastle fans, Reading fans…The list goes on…But if you are a United fan…Then idiots like you will always stick to there claims that WE are glory hunting :roll:
Deal with it and move on, Pikey….This is the way football has been for over a decade!
As for the pundits saying that Shearer was one of the best players EVER….Well what a load of sh1t….He’s not in Peles league…He’s not in Maradonas league….He’s not even in George Best’s league….And he would never be able to get close to what Ronaldinho has got, and that’s unreal talent…HE will go down as one of the best players ever, but Shearer shouldn’t….He’s not even in the same league as these players…And I could mention alot more players if I wanted too…Maybe he was one of the best talents in the 90s, but certainly not one of the greatest players ever! That is almost laughable!
:lol: You support who you want, Robbo. As I said, sorry for implying you were a glory hunter. Touchy.
Surely, if you’re now admitting that Shearer was one of the best players of the nineties, then by extension that makes him one of the best players ever as well. I suppose it all depends how many players make up your list of ‘best ever’. Top ten with Maradonna, Pele etc? Certainly not. One of the best fifty ever? Probably not. One of the best one hundred ever? Maybe.
As a sample, there were about twenty separate players mentioned in the top three of the FIFA World Player Award throughout the nineties. So taken over the sixty years from the end of the war, and assuming a similar pattern for each decade, we could say Shearer was one of the top one-hundred and twenty players.
Out of all the players at every level and in every nation ever to play the game since the Second World War, that’s still not an achievement to be sniffed at, I would say. Quite remarkable, in fact. Seems a bit churlish to insist otherwise.
@robbo wrote:
@Bad Manners wrote:
I agree in that Ronney could well be the best striker in the world in the next few years. Shearer was an outstanding striker though and at his prime he was one of the top 3 strikers in the world.
He was never in the top 3…In opinion, but not in awards….You had Ronaldo, Shevshenko coming up..You had a bundle of tallented strikers who Shearer couldn’t get close too…He was considered OUR best striker in ENGLAND…But never in world football….He went to Newcastle, because no bigger team wanted him..I didnt see barca calling for him, or the Madrids, or the Milans, Juventus….He was never as big as to what people map him out to be..But he WAS good.
LMFAOOO U SAID IT BUT HANG ON DIDNT MAN UTD TRY TO BUY HIM MORE THAN 3 TIMES LMFAOOO BUT HE REFUSED TO B A DIRTY MANC
@morph wrote:
@robbo wrote:
@Bad Manners wrote:
I agree in that Ronney could well be the best striker in the world in the next few years. Shearer was an outstanding striker though and at his prime he was one of the top 3 strikers in the world.
He was never in the top 3…In opinion, but not in awards….You had Ronaldo, Shevshenko coming up..You had a bundle of tallented strikers who Shearer couldn’t get close too…He was considered OUR best striker in ENGLAND…But never in world football….He went to Newcastle, because no bigger team wanted him..I didnt see barca calling for him, or the Madrids, or the Milans, Juventus….He was never as big as to what people map him out to be..But he WAS good.
LMFAOOO U SAID IT BUT HANG ON DIDNT MAN UTD TRY TO BUY HIM MORE THAN 3 TIMES LMFAOOO BUT HE REFUSED TO B A DIRTY MANC
No….Man United showed INTEREST in him…There is a difference…But it was quite evident that we weren’t going to fork up that kind of money for him(even though we could have).
So LMFAOOOOOOOO away, dumb ar.se
ps: It’s funny how Morph tries to drop some knowledge on the situation, after someone else already beat him to it…The dummy probably didn’t even know that United showed INTEREST in Shearer, bless him.
it was’nt shearer who refused too.. blackburn refused to sell him to man united at the time, because it would have meant man united would have been unbeatable
i don’t think we could have had a better partnership then cole and yorke anyway, the year we won the trebble
@token_male wrote:
@morph wrote:
@drivel wrote:
I agree Oss – they are different types of players though ; Rooney drops back into midfield to lose his markers , Shearer is more of an out and out striker .
Although I am a diehard mackem Shearer has been superb throughout his career – but shouldn’t he have gone to a decent team to win some trophies ???
YOUR JUST JEL COZ U HAVE NEVER HAD A DECENT STRIKER U HAD PHILLIPS BUT HE WAS SH1TE ALSO
AND ROONEY WILL NEVER BE AS GOOD A STRIKER AS SHEARER GOALS SPEAK LOUDER THAN A RUN AROUND A FIELD!! IF YOU DONT WANNA COMPAIR HIM TO SHEARER DONT CALL HIM A STRIKER IF U WANT TO COMPAIR HIM HEL COME SECOND EVERY TIME POOR ROONEY
rubbish in my opinion!
shearer was great, but i still think rooney will go down as a better player than him when all is said and done
Shearer was/is a one off.
A great striker for his club (any club) and country.
He could score brilliant goals with either foot and his head.
He was/is one of the BEST strikers England have had in a long time.
His strength was matched by his ability to read the game perfectly and to hold the ball.
His ability to shield the ball was perfection in itself.He was no saint on the pitch, but show me a player who is and I`ll show him the door!
Rooney is a very, very good player and he is still young and still learning.
To argue over who is/was the best striker is pointless……….
They are as different as chalk and cheese.And who said Shearer never dropped back to help the team? `B0llocks`, he did it all the time for his club and country.
Now stop all this childish dummy-spitting and lets just be thankful that Shearer & Rooney are English (they could have played for Scotland :P )
I for one, WILL be getting behind England in Germany, and that includes Rooney :D
Sorry but in my eyes theres only one striker
HESKIE :shock: :shock: :shock: :twisted: :twisted: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:
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