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2 October, 2008 at 10:43 am #376954
@drummerchris wrote:
There’s some great point there…. and lest we forget that Mr Shakespeare invented many of the common words we use today (in that they cannot be found anywhere else in written word before his usage of them). These words include:
Puking – As You Like It, Act II, Scene vii
Hobnob – Twelfth Night, Act III, Scene IV
Eyeball – A Midsummer Night’s Dream, Act III, Scene II
Obscene – Love’s Labours Lost, Act I, Scene I
Rant – Hamlet, Act V, Scene I
There are hundreds of them in total! He was a genius and in his day his plays were like modern day celebrity appearances or band gigs. I think a lot of people get turned off by some of the heavier going work – but even the tragedies such as “King Lear” have moments of fantastic humour and hilarity in them!
xxSo you don’t prescribe to the school of thought which believes that Francis Bacon was very possibly the author of all of the above..or even more probable..that Edward de Vere, the 17th Earl of Oxford (1550 – 1604) is the true author of Shakespeare’s prodigious and incredible output of plays, poems and sonnets?
Check out this link for..
A Beginner’s Guide to the Shakespeare Authorship Problem
And join the growing list of sceptics such as..
Orson Welles “I think Oxford wrote Shakespeare. If you don’t agree, there are some awfully funny coincidences to explain away…”
Henry James “I am… haunted by the conviction that the divine William is the biggest and most successful fraud ever practiced on a patient world.”2 October, 2008 at 10:49 am #376955Yup Esme!
Personally.. I’m in the de Vere camp.Either way.. the guy RULED!! 8)
2 October, 2008 at 11:20 am #376956@Sgt Pepper wrote:
Yup Esme!
Personally.. I’m in the de Vere camp.Either way.. the guy RULED!! 8)
Agreed..with regard to the genius of it..I couldn’t give a toss if authorship were divvied up between Atilla The Hun and Vlad The Impaler..but it would be a nod to justice if Oxford were given his due. 8)
2 October, 2008 at 11:31 am #376957Maybe he was actually the leader of an Alien race – sent to earth to bring us forth to enlightenment…..
….or maybe not! lol
2 October, 2008 at 11:53 am #376958@esmeralda wrote:
@Sgt Pepper wrote:
Yup Esme!
Personally.. I’m in the de Vere camp.Either way.. the guy RULED!! 8)
Agreed..with regard to the genius of it..I couldn’t give a toss if authorship were divvied up between Atilla The Hun and Vlad The Impaler..but it would be a nod to justice if Oxford were given his due. 8)
Deffo! It does seem a tad unfair that perhaps the greatest writer of all time isn’t properly recognised.
And let’s not forget that Javelinchucker fella you are fond of quoting too huh? :wink:2 October, 2008 at 12:07 pm #376959I still dont like him :lol:
2 October, 2008 at 12:32 pm #376960@pete wrote:
I still dont like him :lol:
Don’t be so bloody thrawn, man..how could anyone fail to be moved by such as this..
Sonnet 116 Let me not to the marriage of true minds
Let me not to the marriage of true minds
Admit impediments. Love is not love
Which alters when it alteration finds,
Or bends with the remover to remove:
O no! it is an ever-fixed mark
That looks on tempests and is never shaken;
It is the star to every wandering bark,
Whose worth’s unknown, although his height be taken.
Love’s not Time’s fool, though rosy lips and cheeks
Within his bending sickle’s compass come:
Love alters not with his brief hours and weeks,
But bears it out even to the edge of doom.
If this be error and upon me proved,
I never writ, nor no man ever loved.2 October, 2008 at 12:35 pm #376961I don’t like it either , I can barely get past the first two lines of any of it without my eyes glazing over .
2 October, 2008 at 12:45 pm #376962@sugarnspice wrote:
I don’t like it either , I can barely get past the first two lines of any of it without my eyes glazing over .
ok lets try this dunt have a lot of time just now but here goes
Let me not to the marriage of true minds
Admit impediments. (lets not find fault in the love or nitpick) Love is not love
Which alters when it alteration finds,
Or bends with the remover to remove:
O no! it is an ever-fixed mark (love is not standard, its different for everyone)That looks on tempests and is never shaken;
It is the star to every wandering bark,
Whose worth’s unknown, although his height be taken.
Love’s not Time’s fool, though rosy lips and cheeks
Within his bending sickle’s compass come:
Love alters not with his brief hours and weeks, (love should be real not change because you got older or different etc)But bears it out even to the edge of doom. (love conquers all?)If this be error and upon me proved,
I never writ, nor no man ever loved.thing is its the way you read it , if u look beyond the words so to speak, i aint tryin to be clever or nowt , thing is what you like is what you like , me for instance i dunt like heavy metal music and no amount of anyone trying to get me to like it will shift me, different strokes for different folks and all that, shudnt be a big deal if yer dunt like it yer dunt like it , hardly the crime of the century so i wudnt fret bout it
2 October, 2008 at 12:47 pm #376963I am quite capable of understanding it , I just don’t enjoy it or appreciate it .
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