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Only cus they are losing :lol: still i’ve cleared some space in my garden for when they all come over :?
In one repect, the Russian action is justifiable insofar as the Georgians picked this fight by enforcing their right to govern Ossetia despite the large Russian population. The Russians, however, in moving to protect their citizens, have as ever, used a 20 lb hammer to crack a nut.
I got lots of nuts left over from christmas im gonna see if B&Q has a 20lb hammer :P
@esmeralda wrote:
In one repect, the Russian action is justifiable insofar as the Georgians picked this fight by enforcing their right to govern Ossetia despite the large Russian population. The Russians, however, in moving to protect their citizens, have as ever, used a 20 lb hammer to crack a nut.
Esme
Surely that cannot be a jusitfiable reason. South Ossetia is part of Georgia- the fact it has a high Russian ethnicity is irrelevant- it is part of the country of Georgia and can be governed however Georgia wishes without political or physical interference from neighbours. It is Georgian sovereign territory
Thats the very reason Hitler invaded Czechoslovakia in 1938- to protect the Germans in the Sudetanland
Its all going a bit Pete Tong over there
South Ossetia wants independance
But what difference does that make?
The idea of self government down to a micro level takes us almost back to the medieval age with each town or county being governed by a sherriff and the country being a cobbled together alliance of barons and lords rather than a cohesive melting pot of all and sundry.
South Ossetia has never been a country, never will be a country and even if Russia gets its way, it will still only be part of Russia- it can never be independent of anything
@slayer wrote:
South Ossetia is part of Georgia- the fact it has a high Russian ethnicity is irrelevant- it is part of the country of Georgia and can be governed however Georgia wishes without political or physical interference from neighbours. It is Georgian sovereign territory
Slayer
Did you know all this information say… two weeks ago??
Isn’t it strange how one news bulletin makes us experts in foreign affairs all of a sudden?
:roll:Did I know all “what” two weeks?
That South Ossetia was a disputed region of Georgia..er, yes but then again I like and enjoy politics the world over and have followed the Soviet meltdown since the 90’s.
But more to the point, I have a point of view…just like anyone else on here n one of the great things I like about JC is the opportunity to debate an argument- bit like a virtual speakers corner or a cold Tuesday night down the pub- I wouldnt expect anyone to agree with me but its fun to argue the point
@slayer wrote:
@esmeralda wrote:
In one repect, the Russian action is justifiable insofar as the Georgians picked this fight by enforcing their right to govern Ossetia despite the large Russian population. The Russians, however, in moving to protect their citizens, have as ever, used a 20 lb hammer to crack a nut.
Esme
Surely that cannot be a jusitfiable reason. South Ossetia is part of Georgia- the fact it has a high Russian ethnicity is irrelevant- it is part of the country of Georgia and can be governed however Georgia wishes without political or physical interference from neighbours. It is Georgian sovereign territory
Thats the very reason Hitler invaded Czechoslovakia in 1938- to protect the Germans in the Sudetanland
Its all going a bit Pete Tong over there
Hmm, personally there are few justifiable reasons for military aggression, however what we have here is a situation where the Georgians initiated military action against the separatists, allowing the Russian bear to attack under the pretext of defending Russian citizens; but there is no question that the Russians initially stirred up unrest in South Ossetia, provoking the Georgian response…and round and round it goes, with accusation and counter-accusation and collective sphincters braced for another potentially catastrophic conflict in the name of fuc.k knows what.
So this all leaves me none the wiser when some of the most intellingent users on here who’s opinions I listen to cant agree on who is right or wrong.
As the old saying goes… when did a war ever solve anything?
Its all mucking fuddled!
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