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24 November, 2012 at 5:24 pm #515981
@terry wrote:
@kent f OBE wrote:
Rusty aren’t you the lucky one…you’re entitled to your opinion :lol:
He graciously said so :roll:Kenty (please…) stfu.
So from me not allowed an opinion it’s gone to me shutting up…I mean stfu…
You serious? After all your little digs? I have directly answered to some of your posts…that particular one is to Rusty..you feel the need to reply to that one but not the ones to you? Very strange..
I’m not some little immigrant woman who will go away just because you want me to…believe it or not “we” have opinions and guess what…not scared to talk about them
Now if you don’t mind …24 November, 2012 at 5:25 pm #515982Before a couple can become foster parents they have to go through a rigorous selection process… they obviously did that,,, and were accepted.
They have fostered many kids over the years one of whom they had for 4 years…. when Social Services received an anonymous call about the couples political persuasions…why didn’t they judge purely on the development and happiness of the children? they do regular reports dont they?….
The couples records state them as exemplary foster parents and that the children were doing well ….. it was stated the baby was thriving and the other two were happy…. politics should have been secondary here….. the only thing that mattered was the well being of the kids…. the result is the siblings are now split up…. the very worst and most traumatic result for them….. such a shame
24 November, 2012 at 5:26 pm #515983@jen_jen wrote:
I personally think that in this case it’s damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Once they knew about the foster parents’ political affiliations they were on a hiding to nothing.
Once again, Jen-Jen, I think you’re right. you’re batting a century at the moment.
24 November, 2012 at 5:27 pm #515984@mrs_teapot wrote:
Before a couple can become foster parents they have to go through a rigorous selection process… they obviously did that,,, and were accepted.
They have fostered many kids over the years one of whom they had for 4 years…. when Social Services received an anonymous call about the couples political persuasions…why didn’t they judge purely on the development and happiness of the children? they do regular reports dont they?….
The couples records state them as exemplary foster parents and that the children were doing well ….. it was stated the baby was thriving and the other two were happy…. politics should have been secondary here….. the only thing that mattered was the well being of the kids…. the result is the siblings are now split up…. the very worst and most traumatic result for them….. such a shame
Excellent post Mrs T. =D>
24 November, 2012 at 5:31 pm #515985@terry wrote:
@mrs_teapot wrote:
Before a couple can become foster parents they have to go through a rigorous selection process… they obviously did that,,, and were accepted.
They have fostered many kids over the years one of whom they had for 4 years…. when Social Services received an anonymous call about the couples political persuasions…why didn’t they judge purely on the development and happiness of the children? they do regular reports dont they?….
The couples records state them as exemplary foster parents and that the children were doing well ….. it was stated the baby was thriving and the other two were happy…. politics should have been secondary here….. the only thing that mattered was the well being of the kids…. the result is the siblings are now split up…. the very worst and most traumatic result for them….. such a shame
Excellent post Mrs T. =D>
I’m non political as far as this case is concerned Terry…. that doesn’t mean I am sympathetic to UKIP or its policies.
24 November, 2012 at 5:33 pm #515986@kent f OBE wrote:
So from me not allowed an opinion it’s gone to me shutting up…I mean stfu…
You serious? After all your little digs?Let’s face it, you NEVER get abusive do you?
@kent f OBE wrote:
Now stop being an arse Terry, argue with sense and facts if you so wish, put your opinion across like an adult and not use the same excuse like a spoilt brat
:roll:
24 November, 2012 at 5:36 pm #515987@mrs_teapot wrote:
I’m non political as far as this case is concerned Terry…. that doesn’t mean I am sympathetic to UKIP or its policies.
I couldn’t care less about your politics Mrs T. And if only Joyce Thacker at Rotherham was the same we’d all be a lot better off and that’s the whole point.
24 November, 2012 at 5:43 pm #515988@terry wrote:
@mrs_teapot wrote:
Before a couple can become foster parents they have to go through a rigorous selection process… they obviously did that,,, and were accepted.
They have fostered many kids over the years one of whom they had for 4 years…. when Social Services received an anonymous call about the couples political persuasions…why didn’t they judge purely on the development and happiness of the children? they do regular reports dont they?….
The couples records state them as exemplary foster parents and that the children were doing well ….. it was stated the baby was thriving and the other two were happy…. politics should have been secondary here….. the only thing that mattered was the well being of the kids…. the result is the siblings are now split up…. the very worst and most traumatic result for them….. such a shame
Excellent post Mrs T. =D>
I agree with a lot of what you have stated, Mrs T. I think the foster parents are blameless (they believe what they believe just like the rest of us) even if i disagree with their politics. And they obviously have a heightened sense of civic duty. But i can’t blame the council for being sensitive to the issue once they became aware of it. Should they been more diligent and employed a more rigorous selection process before placing the children? Perhaps. Have the foster parents been exemplary? I have no evidence to the contrary.
But I can’t detach myself from considering the cultural and ethnic needs of the children anymore than I could to their health or educational needs. We’re greater than the sum of our parts, but all our parts contribute to our happiness and wellbeing. We can’t employ an exact science here, and like Jen-Jen said, once the council became aware, they were in an unenviable precarious position.
I can’t blame the council for acting on anonymous tips, though.
24 November, 2012 at 5:57 pm #515989@rusty trawler wrote:
I think the foster parents are blameless (they believe what they believe just like the rest of us) even if i disagree with their politics.
I don’t think this is a debate about your political beliefs and which party you agree or disagree with. The same could be said about Thacker who clearly doesn’t like UKIP and has decided to make an issue of it. She has to go. Simple as.
24 November, 2012 at 6:14 pm #515990@terry wrote:
@rusty trawler wrote:
I think the foster parents are blameless (they believe what they believe just like the rest of us) even if i disagree with their politics.
I don’t think this is a debate about your political beliefs and which party you agree or disagree with. The same could be said about Thacker who clearly doesn’t like UKIP and has decided to make an issue of it. She has to go. Simple as.
Sorry, Terry, I have a bad habit of not making myself clear. I was stating that I don’t necessarily share their political beliefs, and that their political beliefs would make me question their suitability as foster parents for these particular children. I was also highlighting the point that I don’t necessarily think they are bad people, just that our beliefs will often preclude us from doing things. I would be very sceptical about accepting a lift from an unrecoverd alcoholic but that doesn’t necessarily mean that they are drunk.
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