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24 November, 2012 at 4:49 pm #515971
@rusty trawler wrote:
The council had a duty of care to the children.
Exactly. And they’ve failed, which is why an investigation is being launched.
To ensure that children get the proper ‘duty of care’ maybe Joyce Thacker should stand down from her position or be forcibly removed.
24 November, 2012 at 4:52 pm #515972I personally think that in this case it’s damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Once they knew about the foster parents’ political affiliations they were on a hiding to nothing.
24 November, 2012 at 4:57 pm #515973@jen_jen wrote:
I personally think that in this case it’s damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Once they knew about the foster parents’ political affiliations they were on a hiding to nothing.
It was a decision based purely on political discrimination. If they’d been members of the Conservative Party the kids wouldn’t have been removed. At the end of the day the kids have been denied a safe home environment by somebody (Joyce Thacker) who clearly isn’t fit for purpose. But I’m sure that she and Kenty would get on like a house on fire.
24 November, 2012 at 5:01 pm #515974@terry wrote:
@rusty trawler wrote:
The council had a duty of care to the children.
Exactly. And they’ve failed, which is why an investigation is being launched.
To ensure that children get the proper ‘duty of care’ maybe Joyce Thacker should stand down from her position or be forcibly removed.
I’m not sure I get your issue, terry.
Are you saying it is wrong to try to attempt put children in supportive environments? Personally, in way of an illustration, I would want considerable assurances if a council placed a Christian child in a fundamentally Muslim or Jewish environment. I’d also like to think I would brave the risk of being branded a racist or being called a politically correct loony in order to support the greater needs of the child. Therefore, I commend the council for being aware of the potential pitfalls.
I’m not going to waiver in my opinion simply because there is an investigation pending. Like I said, their conclusion my have been mistaken, their concerns are laudable.
24 November, 2012 at 5:08 pm #515975@rusty trawler wrote:
@terry wrote:
@rusty trawler wrote:
The council had a duty of care to the children.
Exactly. And they’ve failed, which is why an investigation is being launched.
To ensure that children get the proper ‘duty of care’ maybe Joyce Thacker should stand down from her position or be forcibly removed.
I’m not sure I get your issue, terry.
Are you saying it is wrong to try to attempt put children in supportive environments? Personally, in way of an illustration, I would want considerable assurances if a council placed a Christian child in a fundamentally Muslim or Jewish environment. I’d also like to think I would brave the risk of being branded a racist or being called a politically correct loony in order to support the greater needs of the child. Therefore, I commend the council for being aware of the potential pitfalls.
I’m not going to waiver in my opinion simply because there is an investigation pending. Like I said, their conclusion my have been mistaken, their concerns are laudable.
You’re entitled to your opinion. I just hope you’re not in social services though.
24 November, 2012 at 5:11 pm #515976The needs of the children must always come first.
24 November, 2012 at 5:14 pm #515977Rusty aren’t you the lucky one…you’re entitled to your opinion :lol:
He graciously said so :roll:24 November, 2012 at 5:16 pm #515978@jen_jen wrote:
The needs of the children must always come first.
I agree, but giving decision-making jobs to people like Joyce Thacker is not in anyone’s interest.
24 November, 2012 at 5:17 pm #515979@kent f OBE wrote:
Rusty aren’t you the lucky one…you’re entitled to your opinion :lol:
He graciously said so :roll:Kenty (please…) stfu.
24 November, 2012 at 5:18 pm #515980Indeed, Terry.
I don’t think i have the prerequisite skills and expertise to work in the social services. I do think many of these professionals are undervalued and we don’t necessarily acknowledge how difficult a job it is and that sometimes they will inevitably make mistakes in the pursuit of the the right thing.
I’m not sure that you’re qualified to work in the social services either, because you don’t seem to understand that these things are rarely polarized and finding the right solution will usually be difficult to identify because of the very nature of the work.
Anyway, I hope you don’t think i’m personalizing this or claiming to have the answers. I merely enjoy the debate and hopefully learn something in the process.
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