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…and please keep personal disrespect out of threads about the slaughter of children such as this is.
In my opinion, you can’t disentangle politics and religion from a bombing whihc is political and religious as well a horrific. That’s not everybody’s opinion, but we’re all different. It’s like John Lennon once said during a tour of the USA in the mid sixties – “How can you be in America and not talk about Vietnam”?
Martin wants to push the political side to a serious thread, ok, I’ll go with that.
But personal disrespect on a thread like this?? That’s disgusting.
My heartfelt condolences to the victims’ families. What a horrendous tragedy and esp when the very young are the victims. Also to the people of Manchester, much love and respect to all of you for extending a helping hand unconditionally…from the homeless man to the taxi company etc…
Scep. This was a thread for sympathy to families and victims
ptetty sure nobody doubts your sorrow , but yet again you can’t resist the chance to blow your own trumpet about what you perceive to be your own superior intelligence
it’s quite common for intellectuals to be totally disconnected to common thoughts, because of course your opinion will educate the world
wrong
shame on you for spoiling a thread totally aimed at showing concern, grief , and support , despite why or how it happened
start your own thread , as you often do , and leave this one be … shameful
Shame on you, mr or ms self-righteous.
I accept the decision to split the thread, despite my opinion that it shouldn’t be split. All I’ve been doing since the split is to defend myself against people like yourself who claim I have njo respect for the dead.
I made the one-off point. The real people who are spoiling this thread are people like you who keep turning a thread based on respect for dead children into a thread personally insulting a jc member. You keep doing that, you’re bound to provoke a defence.
Shame on you!
leave it alone and let the thread be about the dead. That is the only point here I’ve been making.
This is about the Manchester ‘swagger’.
If Martin thinks it political, then let him move it to the ‘serious’ site (which was turned into a circus by a troll). If anyone else thinks it political, then shut up and put up with it. We all have different ways of showing our respect. You’re not the only ones who are allowed to show it.
I’m not from Manchester, have hardly visited the city, though I know a lot of good people from there. But they have something called the ‘swagger’, I believe, whihc is about the civic pride ordinary people feel about the place.
It’s come into its own during this tragedy. The people have rallied round in a heartwarming way, and it was impossible to watch the memorial service without feeling moved by the silence there, followed by applause.
It came into its own the night of the bombing, when people in their thousands turned out to help the injured, including Muslims as shocked about the atrocity as anyone else (the Muslim community had reported the murderer to the cops months ago as a known radical who flew the black flag outside his home. The reports were apparently ignored).
Manchester’s reactions made us all proud, made all of us – including Muslims – aware that our care for life is superior to the obsession with death and pain of those who had committed this atrocity.
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