RIP to the great mind and atheist Stephen Hawkings

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18 March, 2018 at 9:14 pm #1089954

mooosey88

LOL the woman helping her in orange just looks embarrassed !!!

18 March, 2018 at 9:15 pm #1089955

Nemesis

rudeboy wrote:

Nemesis wrote:

I have never said anyone is going to hell nor do I think i am arrogant. I’m not stupid either. There are highly respected scientists that believe in God as well as atheists. Don’t assume faith equals stupidity. Is it not arrogant to say that believing in God is ludicrous? My faith is my own, I dont “preach” or belittle people who dont believe what I do.

You’re taking it personally as my post was in general but my original post stands. I believe people believing in Jesus, the bible and ” Christianity ” are generally of a lower intelligence. You state there are highly respected scientists that believe in God – name them.

Copernicus, Isaac Newton, Kepler, Faraday…

More recently, Sir Robert Boyd, Mariano Artigas, Stanley Jaki, Walter Thirring, Denis Alexander, Robert J Asher, R J Berry, Ben Carson, William Newsome…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christians_in_science_and_technology

Way more on there….

18 March, 2018 at 9:18 pm #1089956

rudeboy

Nemesis wrote:

rudeboy wrote:

Nemesis wrote:

I have never said anyone is going to hell nor do I think i am arrogant. I’m not stupid either. There are highly respected scientists that believe in God as well as atheists. Don’t assume faith equals stupidity. Is it not arrogant to say that believing in God is ludicrous? My faith is my own, I dont “preach” or belittle people who dont believe what I do.

You’re taking it personally as my post was in general but my original post stands. I believe people believing in Jesus, the bible and ” Christianity ” are generally of a lower intelligence. You state there are highly respected scientists that believe in God – name them.

Copernicus, Isaac Newton, Kepler, Faraday… More recently, Sir Robert Boyd, Mariano Artigas, Stanley Jaki, Walter Thirring, Denis Alexander, Robert J Asher, R J Berry, Ben Carson, William Newsome… https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christians_in_science_and_technology Way more on there….

Most of those lived in a bygone era where stating you didnt believe in God resulted in execution so they will hardly state they were atheists.

18 March, 2018 at 9:24 pm #1089957

Nemesis

There are over 150 listed after 1900, less than that before so you may want to revise that statement.

18 March, 2018 at 9:32 pm #1089958

rudeboy

It’s all very well listing scientist names , but how many on there have made either ground breaking discoveries like for eg our friend the atheist Hawkings using an elegant vacuum fluctuation model able to provide a mathematical rationalization for the entire universe popping into existence at the beginning of time…. also called the “universe as a wave function.

18 March, 2018 at 9:53 pm #1089959
Nemesis
According to 100 Years of Nobel Prizes a review of Nobel prizesaward between 1901 and 2000 reveals that (65.4%) of Nobel Prizes Laureates, have identified Christianity in its various forms as their religious preference.[78] Overall, Christians have won a total of 72.5% of all the Nobel Prizes in Chemistry,[79] 65.3% in Physics,[79] 62% in Medicine,[79] 54% in Economics.[79][79]
- Lord Kelvin (1824–1907): At the University of Glasgow he did important work in the mathematical analysis of electricity and formulation of the first and second laws of thermodynamics. He gave a famous address to the Christian Evidence Society. In science he won the Copley Medal and the Royal Medal.[87]
- Wilhelm Röntgen (1845–1923) was a German engineer and physicist, who, on 8 November 1895, produced and detected electromagnetic radiation in a wavelength range known as X-rays or Röntgen rays, an achievement that earned him the first Nobel Prize in Physics in 1901[89]
- Charles Doolittle Walcott (1850–1927): Walcott was a paleontologist, most notable for his discovery of the Burgess Shaleof British Columbia. The late Stephen Jay Gould said that Walcott, “discoverer of the Burgess Shale fossils, was a convinced Darwinian and an equally firm Christian, who believed that God had ordained natural selection to construct a history of life according to His plans and purposes.”[97]
- Guglielmo Marconi (1874–1937): was an Italian inventor and electrical engineer known for his pioneering work on long-distance radio transmission and for his development of Marconi’s law and a radio telegraph system. He shared the 1909 Nobel Prize in Physics.[99][100]
- William Williams Keen (1837–1932): first brain surgeon in the United States, and a prominent surgical pathologist who served as President of the American Medical Association. He also wrote I believe in God and in evolution.[
- Arthur Eddington (1882–1944): British astrophysicist of the early 20th century. He was also a philosopher of science and a popularizer of science. The Eddington limit, the natural limit to the luminosity of stars, or the radiation generated by accretion onto a compact object, is named in his honor. He is famous for his work regarding the theory of relativity. Eddington was a lifelong Quaker, and gave the Gifford Lectures in 1927.[107]
- Max Born (1882–1970): was a German physicist and mathematician who was instrumental in the development of quantum mechanics. Born won the 1954 Nobel Prize in Physics for his “fundamental research in Quantum Mechanics, especially in the statistical interpretation of the wave function”[12
- Werner Heisenberg (1901–1976): German theoretical physicist and one of the key pioneers of quantum mechanics. Heisenberg was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics for 1932 “for the creation of quantum mechanics”.[142]
- Joseph Murray (1919–2012): Catholic surgeon who pioneered transplant surgery. He won the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 1990.[185]
- Walter Thirring (1927-2014): Austrian physicist after whom the Thirring model in quantum field theory is named. He is the son of the physicist Hans Thirring, co-discoverer of the Lense-Thirring frame dragging effect in general relativity. He also wrote Cosmic Impressions: Traces of God in the Laws of Nature.[18
18 March, 2018 at 10:01 pm #1089960

mooosey88

tbf, only 2 of those named above were born before 1900 and none before 1930……

18 March, 2018 at 10:03 pm #1089961

mooosey88

my point being they lived before a lot of medical science was discovered including DNA etc….

18 March, 2018 at 10:36 pm #1089962
rudeboy
Nemesis wrote:

According to 100 Years of Nobel Prizes a review of Nobel prizesaward between 1901 and 2000 reveals that (65.4%) of Nobel Prizes Laureates, have identified Christianity in its various forms as their religious preference.[78] Overall, Christians have won a total of 72.5% of all the Nobel Prizes in Chemistry,[79] 65.3% in Physics,[79] 62% in Medicine,[79] 54% in Economics.[79][79]
- Lord Kelvin (1824–1907): At the University of Glasgow he did important work in the mathematical analysis of electricity and formulation of the first and second laws of thermodynamics. He gave a famous address to the Christian Evidence Society. In science he won the Copley Medal and the Royal Medal.[87]
- Wilhelm Röntgen (1845–1923) was a German engineer and physicist, who, on 8 November 1895, produced and detected electromagnetic radiation in a wavelength range known as X-rays or Röntgen rays, an achievement that earned him the first Nobel Prize in Physics in 1901[89]
- Charles Doolittle Walcott (1850–1927): Walcott was a paleontologist, most notable for his discovery of the Burgess Shaleof British Columbia. The late Stephen Jay Gould said that Walcott, “discoverer of the Burgess Shale fossils, was a convinced Darwinian and an equally firm Christian, who believed that God had ordained natural selection to construct a history of life according to His plans and purposes.”[97]
- Guglielmo Marconi (1874–1937): was an Italian inventor and electrical engineer known for his pioneering work on long-distance radio transmission and for his development of Marconi’s law and a radio telegraph system. He shared the 1909 Nobel Prize in Physics.[99][100]
- William Williams Keen (1837–1932): first brain surgeon in the United States, and a prominent surgical pathologist who served as President of the American Medical Association. He also wrote I believe in God and in evolution.[
- Arthur Eddington (1882–1944): British astrophysicist of the early 20th century. He was also a philosopher of science and a popularizer of science. The Eddington limit, the natural limit to the luminosity of stars, or the radiation generated by accretion onto a compact object, is named in his honor. He is famous for his work regarding the theory of relativity. Eddington was a lifelong Quaker, and gave the Gifford Lectures in 1927.[107]
- Max Born (1882–1970): was a German physicist and mathematician who was instrumental in the development of quantum mechanics. Born won the 1954 Nobel Prize in Physics for his “fundamental research in Quantum Mechanics, especially in the statistical interpretation of the wave function”[12
- Werner Heisenberg (1901–1976): German theoretical physicist and one of the key pioneers of quantum mechanics. Heisenberg was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics for 1932 “for the creation of quantum mechanics”.[142]
- Joseph Murray (1919–2012): Catholic surgeon who pioneered transplant surgery. He won the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 1990.[185]
- Walter Thirring (1927-2014): Austrian physicist after whom the Thirring model in quantum field theory is named. He is the son of the physicist Hans Thirring, co-discoverer of the Lense-Thirring frame dragging effect in general relativity. He also wrote Cosmic Impressions: Traces of God in the Laws of Nature.[18
All born in an era where atheism was shunned, even now , do you think Trump would be president of the USA if he said he was an atheist? As said above , they wrote much of their work before DNA was used in the manner it is today.
18 March, 2018 at 11:10 pm #1089963

lindaclemenza7

Rudeboy,

Omg….thanks for the clip…

In curiosity I have watched a few of those shows here..before..

Sadly these so called Preachers whom believe they have been shared a physical healing power by an almighty, are sadly what I call thieves. Thrive on the weak to continue they so call it “God’s Work.”

Many of us upset by those who gain fame, name, and money at expense of others especially in these type of venues..

Thank you..you right pretty sick…and not the act of pure Christian studies…

P.s. the Jewish belief is the Messiah will rise again. Year’s ago sorry forgot name of the leader, Jewish people thought it him. Well, he died…Lol never came back..Jewish still wait…..

Jesus was a Jew. It was his own people in his time whom forced his death upon Pontius Pilot…
Pisses me off actually..I call all those Rabbi’s then ignorant and with no intelligence….

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