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Horse for courses and each case is different. Do I feel sympathy for a reckless driver who kills himself, no! I do feel sorry for the person they may kill or injure whilst they are recklessly driving though, it isn’t their fault!! I do actually also feel sorry for those left behind, the families of those who bring about, for whatever reason, their own deaths, and that’s not! what I said!!Stephen Gately joins the list of celebs that have met their maker before their time for whatever reason of their own making. Wasn’t it one of the Geldof girls a few months back blamed her ‘drug habit’ on what her mother did, their mother died when they were very small and thats a poor excuse as far as i’m concerned. I’m sure though that when one of them end up in hospital with an overdose they’ll be plenty pple around to feel sorry for them, cept I wont be one of em
Like I said each case is different, and sorry if I offended anyone but it’s how I feel about this particular one. :roll:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8304419.stm
He died of natural causes, not drink or drugs related…so does he deserve sympathy now?
Talk about being pre-judged…but then isn’t that the way of the tabloids.
Oh and btw, do I have experience of this, yea actually I do.
A very dear freind of mine died at the age of 47, due to his use and miss-use of drugs over the years. He knew better than to expect sympathy from me. Talk to him yes, discuss it yes, which we did, on numerous occasions. Yes also, I felt sorry for his children when he died, he was still their dad after all.
He was a lovely man, he had a serious problem he couldnt deal with, it ultimately killed him.
Maybe I look at things differently…I’ve lost friends and family members to drink and drugs and other “self-inflicted” illnesses, to suicide and also to reckless driving (their own). Yes they have to take responsibility for their own actions, but my sympathy is for the loss of the person they could have been, for the things they could have achieved, for the life that is wasted, if only they could have found the strength to throw away the crutch that is ultimately killing them. Addiction is a hard master with high demands, and it takes a strong person to go it alone and leave that master behind.
I am lucky, I am a strong person, I have good people around me to turn to when I need support, and I offer the same support in return. I am thankful to be so blessed. Not everyone has that, and it is not my place to judge them for how they get through their lives.
But as I’ve already posted, Stephen Gately’s death was down to natural causes, drugs and alcohol were not the cause of death…but the tabloids and the media pre-judged him, and so did the readers and listeners, simply because of who he was and the assumptions we make about people in the entertainment industry.
@will wrote:
so cos steven gateley had a few drinks and died later on by chokin to death.. or woteva the cause wss he deserves to die? he dont get any sympathey? wot a load of bull sh1t.
its not like he intendid on dyin.. ppl go out drinkin every nite and have no probs and have a great time.. if they drank slightley too much do they deserve to die too?fckin hell… have a heart ppl. and i agree with jen. where do u draw the line. yh fair enuff sumbody gettin behind the wheel and crashin killin themselves is there own fault, but to say he deserve no sympathey cos he had a drink to may is disgustin. its not like he were driven or sumthin he was at home ffs.
Well said will :o ……. well sort of :? :wink:
@cas wrote:
Oh and btw, do I have experience of this, yea actually I do.
A very dear freind of mine died at the age of 47, due to his use and miss-use of drugs over the years. He knew better than to expect sympathy from me. Talk to him yes, discuss it yes, which we did, on numerous occasions. Yes also, I felt sorry for his children when he died, he was still their dad after all.
He was a lovely man, he had a serious problem he couldnt deal with, it ultimately killed him.
Hmm we won’t even go there Cas (no offence intended).
Anyway ….. back to my original post.
This was a thread expressing acknowledgement of sudden death of a 33year old musican who incidently died of natural causes NOT misuse of any substance if the news is right.
Even if he was sloshed & choked on his own vomit, how many of you have had your head down the big white telephone after a night on the pop?
Makes you realise how easy life can be taken by doing something that a lot do every weekend.Nowhere did I say it was tragic though I’m glad my compassion goes beyond judging a person.
RIP
I read today that he was in an unusual prayer like position when he was found.
What the hell can someone be doing in a prayer like pose, and then die from doing whatever it was?
Presumably, he was kneeling on the floor, with his hands close together as if cupping something.
How very odd.
@minim wrote:
I read today that he was in an unusual prayer like position when he was found.
What the hell can someone be doing in a prayer like pose, and then die from doing whatever it was?
Presumably, he was kneeling on the floor, with his hands close together as if cupping something.
How very odd.
perhaps he was knealing on the floor clutching his chest from the pain as his heart failed and his lungs filled up with fluid and drowned him.
ok enough of this ppl deserve to die sh it. NO ONE deserves to die an untimely death whatever the cause (unless its a murderer put to death) and if someone dies as a direct or indirect result of something they did whether they knew it would kill them or not they still deserve sympathy for not having seen their own demise coming. If someone dies from a drug habit or drink habit then who are we to judge them? Until everyone in this forum is whiter than God and has no agendas or vices in life and how boring that would be… then we can find authority to judge others. Lets face it… it is easy to condem the dead who cannot speak for themselves. Weak very weak.
you honestly believe the family lawyer would come out with anything other than what he has? He’s hardly goin to say he died drug fueled and trying to nosh himself off while his husband is getting bummed of some Bulgarian is he…
@wakeupdeadisgodlike wrote:
you honestly believe the family lawyer would come out with anything other than what he has? He’s hardly goin to say he died drug fueled and trying to nosh himself off while his husband is getting bummed of some Bulgarian is he…
Yet another namechanger with no balls,trying to be controversial :roll:
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