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29 November, 2017 at 11:33 am #1080712
The phrase alludes to inexperienced or rash people attempting things that more experienced people avoid
Nice try :) Yes your inexperience is all to evident, however I’ve been concerning myself with these matters for decades, over 40 years in fact, so I do have some experience. But that’s besides the point.
Our mutual hero Richard Dawkins has far more experience than I in these matters, and he certainly doesn’t avoid these matters, so,.. if it’s good enough for Sir Richard, it’s more than good enough for me 😀
As you were xxx
29 November, 2017 at 11:54 am #1080722Perhaps u should find the plan in which ur beliefs Sairs are kinder, wiser and full of less poison..venom
maybe then u would understand one belief I try in which is, turn other cheek which I have over the weeks.
U told me ruthless name, u forget, or ur cheese block ur brain cells?
As I believe in God personally, man has rewritten his words.
I read much of the old Testament. I provided structure for my own child when younger. It was a platform for learning, exposure, and her decision to decide. It is my opinion the belief of individuals are their own practices. I respect those beliefs if aware of them personally. Do not judge or critize, nor ever challenge ones inner beliefs in their faith. That is a form of respect. Some at jc should look up meaning.29 November, 2017 at 12:13 pm #1080737As I believe in God personally,
Am I allowed to ask which God ? is it Thor or Odin?
That is a form of respect
Respect must be earned and not demanded
29 November, 2017 at 3:50 pm #1080801The post says that Religion is like a penis..you don’t push it on children. The analogy is clear to all.
Of course, you are free to interpret this how you feel best. How I interpret this is, and I hope how most will interpret this is :- For the vast majority of us penis owners, we should, and I’m sure the very vast majority do, know as a natural instinct one does not push it onto children, just like we know not to put our hand into an open fire or heads into the oven. Even cats and dogs have a natural instinct to keep a safe distance from an open fire. Thus, that natural instinct we have to not put our heads into the oven, hands into an open fire, or push our penis onto children, should equally apply to pushing religion onto a child. So the analogy is actually anti pedophilic rather that pedophilic, which is how you seem to have interpreted it, hence me using the word warped to describe your way of thinking. Richard Dawkins goes one step further by saying pushing religion onto a child actually constitutes child abuse. Personally, I find it difficult to disagree with Dawkins on that point.
I remember once hearing some guy from Manchester Uni arguing that parents have a natural right to do whatever they like to their children – including abusing them. The reason being that the parents created the child, therefore own the child. He didn’t advocate a parent abusing the child; merely argued that they had a right to do so it they wished.
He was a very prominent professor, too, but because he argued in philosophical jargon he didn’t get into trouble. But everybody there knew what he was talking about.
All hung together in a weird sort of logic, rather like an Alfie post.
But as the Oxford professor who answered him pointed out, the logic had gone out to lunch somewhere – the logic was far removed from reality, rather like an Alfie post.
We deliberately didn’t push religion on to our child. If we had, then the child would have reacted against it when he grew. He was free to make his own mind up, and he now has a very balanced attitude to it all.
But many, many people push religion on to their child. They also push society’s values on to their child, such as respect for war and ‘heroes’. Non-religious people push their own values onto their child. Just as we pushed a liberal, tolerant attitude on to ours.
How does that atheist bigot Dawkins justify singling out religious preaching to your child to be equivalent to child abuse??? Why would you agree with him?
If possible, please answer without personal attacks and obscenities, as these obscure the main argument.
29 November, 2017 at 4:04 pm #1080807How does that atheist bigot Dawkins justify singling out religious preaching to your child to be equivalent to child abuse??? Why would you agree with him? If possible, please answer without personal attacks and obscenities, as these obscure the main argument.
Hi Scep, this thread is up for deletion soon, so I wont be writing much.
I dont do ad hominems, so you’re quite safe with me.
You’d have to ask Dawkins really, or put into google, “dawkins religion child abuse” and I’m sure you’ll hear him explain himself, or read it. Please start a new one if you like and we can continue there, this will be deleted soon,. if not I’ll come back tomorrow with answers to your questions,. have a lovely evening x
29 November, 2017 at 4:06 pm #1080810i believe in god i do not believe the bible as that wasn’t written by god
The Bible is full of contradicitons and there is some evil stuff in there.
When the Jews conquered one tribe (Book of Numbers) Moses ordered his followers to kill all the men; then to go through the women and girls to see which ones were still virgin; to kill all the non-virgin women. As for the rest, do with them as you please. One could imagine the roar of warlike joy form his followers..
The Old Testament is a cruel book, complete with wisdom sayings and wonderful poetry. What makes it special is that it contains a prophecy of a saviour who is very different form any other known.
It’s the New Testament which transforms the Old.
The New Testament has a lot of problems of its own.
It’s not the Word of God imho.
But again imho it is a witness to the Word of God. Despite the problems of redaction and contradiction, something true emerges.
That is how I see it.
29 November, 2017 at 4:08 pm #1080812How does that atheist bigot Dawkins justify singling out religious preaching to your child to be equivalent to child abuse??? Why would you agree with him? If possible, please answer without personal attacks and obscenities, as these obscure the main argument.
Hi Scep, this thread is up for deletion soon, so I wont be writing much. I dont do ad hominems, so you’re quite safe with me. You’d have to ask Dawkins really, or put into google, “dawkins religion child abuse” and I’m sure you’ll hear him explain himself, or read it. Please start a new one if you like and we can continue there, this will be deleted soon,. if not I’ll come back tomorrow with answers to your questions,. have a lovely evening x
Yes, it’s going to be deleted as soon as Martin reads some of the revolting comments.
The problem is, Mister, that any post on this topic will be deleted because of the tendency to obscenity among the Dawkins followers. It’s easier than argument.
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29 November, 2017 at 4:39 pm #1080825Amazing Grace and wisdom speaks again…
Sin has many tools, but a lie is the handle which fits them all.
HOLMES…He who tells a lie is not sensible how great a task he undertakes;for he must be forced to invent twenty more to maintain that one.
POPE29 November, 2017 at 4:55 pm #108082929 November, 2017 at 7:50 pm #1080851 -
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