Really?

I know yeh ,come and sit down with me,and have a reet nice cup of tea
never mind these bullies,
idiots
fancy stroking my inner thighs luv?

Isn’t he

draculina wrote:

Pete wrote:

Jesus how heavy is this getting…lighten up please

Haha, sorry. I sometimes get carried away with conversations if I find them interesting.

I agree it is interesting. Although we will probably disagree why. That’s fine though. I don’t agree the “net” is free, “free speech etc” The likes of google, facebook and twitter, etc, are snapping up all competition, Neo liberal corporatism.

draculina wrote:

Off topic, but I am anti-EU myself, I believe that its the remain side that is throwing petitions and letters around to overturn a democratic mandate .

It’s not offtopic, in a discussion about free speech.

I don’t see a plebiscite as final. Only 36% of the population voted to leave, after a campaign where the arguments were both painful and obscurantist.

However, that means we have to leave until a decision is made otherwise.

The analogy is a general election. The people decide to change a government, so the government changes. But that shouldn’t stop people from campaigning for a new government.

Similarly, people have the right to campaign to reverse the decision.

The real problem is in how to brexit. Brexit doesn’t bother me if it’s done in a way which does least harm to the living standards of ordinary people.

A brexit which preserves access to the Single market, and preserves the custom union, is within the terms of the plebisicite. Some of the people here may not like that type of brexit, but they are free to campaign for their version.

*traditionally, jc topics go offtopic – nothing wrong with that.

Okay then, if we are going to talk about the EU I will give you some background information about myself and how I voted. I was born in France, and have dual French / British nationality. I voted to leave the EU, and I will probably be voting for FN next year in the elections, but I haven’t done enough research on the candiates yet.

sceptical guy wrote:

I don’t see a plebiscite as final. Only 36% of the population voted to leave, after a campaign where the arguments were both painful and obscurantist.

Personally I dont see why people who don’t have voting rights, or chose not to use them should be concidered in this. But I would agree both campaigns were pretty bad, with the remain camp being the worst offender.

sceptical guy wrote:

The analogy is a general election. The people decide to change a government, so the government changes. But that shouldn’t stop people from campaigning for a new government.

Similarly, people have the right to campaign to reverse the decision.

That analogy would have people demanding a re-run of the election because they didn’t like the result, rather than because of a mistep by the current government which would valid reason to want to change it. I see no reason to challenge the decision currently, and nobody i’ve spoken to about it has been able to offer one.

sceptical guy wrote:

The real problem is in how to brexit. Brexit doesn’t bother me if it’s done in a way which does least harm to the living standards of ordinary people.

A brexit which preserves access to the Single market, and preserves the custom union, is within the terms of the plebisicite. Some of the people here may not like that type of brexit, but they are free to campaign for their version.

Access to the single market depends on the conditions of entry for me. I don’t like the freedom of movement inside of the EU, some people would call this racist. However nearly all of the people that come to the UK from the EU are white so I never really understood that argument. I believe that laws should apply universally to everyone. A person from Germany should not be favoured over a person from lets say India, the only thing that should matter is their merit.