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Okay. Could the crime of rape be classified into differing degrees? I dont know… never been a victim of it and dont know anybody who has, so am only speaking from what I hear/read.
Is there a difference between the act of a down right perve in flasher mack pouncing on any random female in the street, say victim number one (he is not fussy about who she is, just a female victim) and raping/assaulting her in a most vile manner to the daterape king in the club picking the girl (victim number two) he fancies doing that night?
what if victim number one was drunk?
what if victim number two was sober?
On those off the cuff thoughts then no. Rape is rape, and the situations should have no bearing.
If there is more violence then more compo, but not a reduced compo for the act of having sex with someone without their consent simply because of the circumstance.
If the victim is drunk i say a longer sentence
@sharongooner wrote:
Okay. Could the crime of rape be classified into differing degrees? I dont know… never been a victim of it and dont know anybody who has, so am only speaking from what I hear/read.
Is there a difference between the act of a down right perve in flasher mack pouncing on any random female in the street, say victim number one (he is not fussy about who she is, just a female victim) and raping/assaulting her in a most vile manner to the daterape king in the club picking the girl (victim number two) he fancies doing that night?
what if victim number one was drunk?
what if victim number two was sober?
On those off the cuff thoughts then no. Rape is rape, and the situations should have no bearing.
If there is more violence then more compo, but not a reduced compo for the act of having sex with someone without their consent simply because of the circumstance.
Yes, there are varying degrees of severity in cases of rape. I have long argued, for instance, that having sex with a prostitute against her will, is theft and not rape; it is incomparable to the violation of a child, as is the assault of a husband against his wife incomparable to that of one perpetrated by a rapist on a stranger.
To cover all sexual assaults on women in a generalised swathe, is to minimise the worst assaults and to allow guilty men to walk free rather than face a lesser penalty for a lesser assault.If a prostitute isn’t working would that be classed as theft?
There is a thin line in rape and lots of people see it as a stranger picking a victim but it’s still a violation regardless of how inebriated the person is or what job that person decides to do.No is no and should remain that way, even if the man/woman decides to “bottle” out at last minute.
I now it may sound harsh but if your a prostitute and the punter runs off with out paying then its just a hazzard of the job and you cant scream rape everytime it happens.
I just think date rape is such a gray area and i dont think anyone jury could tell what really happend. I also think date rape is completly different to someone being dragged down an alley and being raped by a complete stranger. But in both cases if someone is convicted then the victim should get the same compo.
Their compensation should be seeing the rapist swing by the neck with piano wire.
@sharongooner wrote:
Okay. Could the crime of rape be classified into differing degrees? I dont know… never been a victim of it and dont know anybody who has, so am only speaking from what I hear/read.
Is there a difference between the act of a down right perve in flasher mack pouncing on any random female in the street, say victim number one (he is not fussy about who she is, just a female victim) and raping/assaulting her in a most vile manner to the daterape king in the club picking the girl (victim number two) he fancies doing that night?
what if victim number one was drunk?
what if victim number two was sober?
On those off the cuff thoughts then no. Rape is rape, and the situations should have no bearing.
If there is more violence then more compo, but not a reduced compo for the act of having sex with someone without their consent simply because of the circumstance.
to answer you.. i know of 2 people here in dundee.
Miss A was raped,a hauled into a park kinda rape. she was under 16 and HAD been drinking, but was NOT drunk. her tarrif was reduced as she was seen to have ” contributed” to it by having a drink.Yes there are tarrifs on these things, but in the case of rape ,they dont seem to take into account the psychological “injuries”. the normal amount is 12 grand. Miss A received just over 8.
now meet mr B… a well known abuser of women/girls , never been reported through fear of what he might do. a weel known fighter and police grass. one of his “victims” met up with him one night and glassed him when he tried to manhandle her. he was awarded 18 grand ! as he played on the distress etc. and how the small scar on his cheek would affect him forever blah de blah. ( more like a badge of honour to prove his badness)
There are no tribunals to hear those claims. just have a form to go on,it seems the more souped up and exagerrated the claims are,the better the chance.I don’t know if anyone cares about my views on this subject but I believe that the word NO means NO.
It doesn’t matter to me if the woman is a prostitute, a housewife, a nanny or whatever, it doesn’t matter to me if the woman is drunk or sober, the moment she says NO I go to the bathroom and play with ” little ” Mibs till the bleeder pukes.
Any man that has sex with a woman against her will should be castrated with a blunt knife and locked up for the rest of his life.@Man in Beds wrote:
I don’t know if anyone cares about my views on this subject but I believe that the word NO means NO.
It doesn’t matter to me if the woman is a prostitute, a housewife, a nanny or whatever, it doesn’t matter to me if the woman is drunk or sober, the moment she says NO I go to the bathroom and play with ” little ” Mibs till the bleeder pukes.
Any man that has sex with a woman against her will should be castrated with a blunt knife and locked up for the rest of his life.=D>
@*Sian wrote:
If a prostitute isn’t working would that be classed as theft?
There is a thin line in rape and lots of people see it as a stranger picking a victim but it’s still a violation regardless of how inebriated the person is or what job that person decides to do.No is no and should remain that way, even if the man/woman decides to “bottle” out at last minute.
Perhaps I didn’t clarify my position very well, Sian. I do of course mean that if the prostitute is ‘working’ then it is theft rather than rape. To generalise sexual violation into a single category is as ludicrous as failing to differentiate between a slap on the face and a knife through the heart when considering gbh, manslaughter or murder.
I have experienced the horror of a terrible sexual assault, but I have also experienced the death of a friend who hanged himself after a false accusation of rape by a ‘lady of ill repute’ who later retracted her statement. Every rape case should be considered on its circumstances and I still maintain that those can be to greater or lesser degrees.
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