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well it is a fact that drunk girls with little clothing have been raped too and many drunk girl has had regretful sex because they were drunk so i can see the point.
@panda12 wrote:
@jen_jen wrote:
There was me thinking we were just discussing the poster campaign and not rape in general…
There were two posters in this campaign;
The one with the women seem to suggest to me that you can only get raped if you go out and get drunk which we all know is a load of rubbish.
It doesn’t suggest that to me at all; what it suggests to me is this is behaviour that might put you at risk…and that’s true. Putting yourself at risk does not mean that you deserve it, as I think we all agree that no one deserves it, or that you are to blame.
Would it be better to not mention the risk at all, to brush it under the carpet?
Do we object to posters in public car parks telling us to lock valuables out of sight as there may be thieves about?
exactly jen, the poster isnt about the causes of rape it is just trying to warn that you may possibly be more vulnerable to rape or regretful sex if you were drunk, it isn’t the only cause of rape it isn’t the only reason but it is a signficant risk and bringing it to the forefront is a good thing surely, or is it better to tip toe around and not say it for fear of offence, or save even one person from using this poster, i vote on offending a few to save even one.
“To support their campaign, the force also released a video featuring a female rape victim – in a bid to encourage women to cut down on how much they drink on a night out.
During the video the victim says she wishes to make others aware of the dangers of drinking too much, which she believes played a part in her attack.
Her account ends with her saying that she has now learnt to drink less and stay in control.”
If anything, this campaign is likely to persuade those, who have been raped on a night out and where alcohol is involved, from reporting it through the fear that they will be blamed for having the damn audacity to go out and enjoy themselves.
i don’t see why panda, being out of your head drunk in the eyes of the law isn’t a defense for the rapist, and i can’t see anywhere in either the poster or the girls statement it says well you were drunk serves you right, but not being out of your head drunk may stop someone making a decision they perhaps wouldnt sober, seems a win win to me.
panda have you been into a town centre late on a Friday or Saturday night as the pubs are closing recently? Or worse, when the clubs are closing? Have you seen the semi-dressed and totally wasted young girls, barely able to stand, lurching along, slurring, unable to focus on anything? And have you seen the young men, barely able to stand, equally wasted, swaying as they try to stand, trying to cop a feel as the girls pass them? But that’s not the worrying thing, those young men are too wasted to rape anyone. The worrying thing is the stone cold sober men that you see, often standing across the road or at a small distance, looking over, watching, with a predatory look in their eyes. They remind me of the big cats watching the herd, looking out for the weak one, the easy target, ready to pounce when the victim gets separated from the herd…it makes me shudder.
If posters like this and videos based on a victim’s account stops just 2 or 3 of those young girls getting raped or just 2 or 3 of those young men getting beaten up, then in my opinion it will be worth the offence it seems to cause you.
think me and jen are reading from the same hymn sheet lol
Just to add that this isn’t a new thing.
A girl that I went to school with went out to a nightclub a couple of weeks after her 18th birthday. She was someone who always wore jeans and a tshirt, but for that evening she wore a dress that showed off her figure. She had what some might consider a normal amount to drink, but she’d only just started drinking so she wasn’t used to it. Feeling ill, she decided to go home and promised her friends she’d get a taxi and they didn’t need to go home with her. The taxi rank was right outside, her friends thought no more of it.
Unfortunately she decided that the short walk home would do her good. It was on the main road along the seafront, well lit and plenty of traffic. The fresh air hit her and so did the drink. I’ll spare you the gory details but 5 boys that she’d been to school with decided that they were going to show her a good time. They took it in turns to rape her then beat her until she was unconscious, then they left her for dead…it was 1am on a cold February night. She was lucky to be found by a dog-walker but she spent 2 weeks in intensive care and another 3 weeks in an ordinary ward. She refused visits from anyone but her family and when she recovered she moved away, her friends never saw her again.
If she hadn’t been wearing a skimpy dress…if she hadn’t had too much to drink…if she hadn’t walked home…if her friends had made sure she’d got into a taxi. We were young, we thought we could handle it, we weren’t anybody’s fool.
That was over 30 years ago. Times haven’t changed that much, the dangers are the same, the precautions are the same. Should we sound a warning to the youth of today? hell, yes!
sorry. I removed a posting there that could have made me look even more an idiot, that I already appear. Its harbouring MY secret and it will shake,rattle and roll with the other skeletons in MY closet..
suffice to say, it was an upper middle class man..and me, the daughter of intelligencia
walked right into it.
Stats say that a suspected rapist is less likely to be prosecuted or convicted if the victim was drunk or had been drinking as the opinion taken by the police and jury is the victim is also at fault.
This poster campaign is really going to change that attitude, isn’t it? :roll:
The police would have been better off spending the money warning all sections of society that rape can happen to anyone at anytime and reassuring them that they shouldn’t be afraid to report it because they are not at fault.
All this poster campaign does is imply to young girls if you go out and get drunk you’re going to get raped but we told you that and you took no notice.
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