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I don’t hold with the theory that some people “deserve to die”. Walk a mile in someone’s shoes.
Sooooo Peter Sutcliffe, Myra Hindley, Fred West, Dr Harold Shipman…. compassion for them ?
@pete wrote:
Sooooo Peter Sutcliffe, Myra Hindley, Fred West, Dr Harold Shipman…. compassion for them ?
That`s different Pete, and you know it!
For a start, Moat wasn`t a serial killer the above mentioned were, Moat is reported to have said he was sorry, the above never showed remorse, with Moat it was personal, not random victims…..
so compassion, hell yeah, because I honestly think we all lose sight of that emotion and I think we need more of it because then instead of a wild media circus we might stop and think why this happened, and how we can stop it happening again.
A former partner of Raoul Moat says he forced her to help him evade a murder rap.
Moat was so desperate to cover his tracks following the gangland killing of a drug dealer in Newcastle 10 years ago, he demanded ex-lover Dawn Cook give him an alibi.
The mother-of-four said: “He came to my door and said, ‘This is the way it’s going to be. I’ve told the police you’re my girlfriend and you were with me on that night and that’s what you’re going to say. If you don’t, somebody will come and get you’.”
Nah i don’t think so
Twisted Raoul Moat parades around in a tiny skirt and top belonging to his former partner of nine years – who last night said: “Thank God he’s dead.”
Marissa Reid, 32, told of the killer’s kinky cross-dressing and told how he made her life hell with beatings, rape and mental torture.
The mother of two of his children said: “I always thought he would kill me. The man was a living monster. He made mine and my children’s lives a misery. I cannot forgive him.”
ning)Marissa said during their nine-year relationship, Moat, 37, throttled her until she passed out, smashed a baseball bat into her spine, whipped her with a belt before raping her while she was tied to a bed, kneed her in the face and punched her repeatedly.
She also told how he was a serial cheat obsessed with underage girls and claimed he battered a man senseless because he chatted to her in a club. And he forced her to have a tattoo with his name as a sick badge of honour, as he did with all his women.
“That man was a living, breathing monster. Thank God he’s dead. He made mine and my children’s lives a misery, I can never forgive him for that.
“I met Raoul when I was just 19 and was impressed with his physique, all those muscles. It was a blind date arranged through my sister and he was a true gent at first and kissed me on the cheek when we said goodbye. For the first six months it was the honeymoon period and everything was great.
“He was very charming, a gentle giant, or so I thought. Then one night he told me, ‘Your mine now, I own you’.”
“When I then tried to leave the club he pinned me face down by the back of the neck on the stairs and said, ‘Get back in there now, you ain’t going anywhere.’ Other bouncers did nothing.
“I sat in the toilets crying for two hours. I was terrified about what was going to happen to me.
“Later I was driven home in his friend’s van and told, ‘Get in the flat.’ I went straight up to bed.”
Moat – who shot himself dead on Saturday morning after a tense stand-off with police in Rothbury – then followed her upstairs and burst into the room snarling: “If you want to be a slag I’ll treat you like one.”
Marissa added: “His eyes were on fire. I was terrified. I was too scared to speak. He got a belt and put it around my wrists and then got another belt looped it through and tied that to the bed.
“He hit me with a belt five times across my back, I screamed for him to stop but he wouldn’t, after he hit me he raped me still tied to the bed.”
Marissa spoke out as Moat’s brother hit out at police branding the killer’s death at his own hand a “public execution”. He also questioned why officers who had Moat surrounded used a Taser gun on him in the driving rain.
Following his brutal rape attack on Marissa she said 6ft 3in, 18 stone Moat’s rages intensified, fuelled by his daily steroid fix.
Marissa said: “He’d get me to measure his arms daily, they were huge, 19-and-a-half inches all the way round. He’d make me inject him with steroids.” In his next savage attack, Moat nearly killed his petite girlfriend. After a long shift at the nightclub he came home and demanded sex.
Marissa said: “When I said no, I was too tired, he got angry, dragged me into the living room, pushed me into the wall face first, grabbed my hair and smashed my head off his knee. He then threw me on the floor.
All I can say is we`re only really going to get stories that supprt him being this evil, twisted monster, what he has done sickens me to the depth of my soul Pete, but for pitys sake his death was a bloddy circus, it was reminiscent of the ampitheatres, throwing someone to the lions.
Personally, I think his death will bring “closure” to his victims in many ways but there are still a lot of issues that need addressing.
all I`m saying really is I think we should allow his family another post mortem, out of compassion for them.
They can have whatever they want providing they pay for it.
Why? It`ll cost a fraction of what it would have cost to keep him in jail or psychiatric hospital.
It`s been reported that the police feared he was going to take his life which is why they used the tazers….some one can be heard shouting oh my god, I don`t beleive police wanted him dead, I do beleive it was the best outcome though. Ill, or evil, either way he killed someone in cold blood, and by all accounts was a monster BUT I do think there is a lot to be learnt from this.
What I don’t like is the baying for blood, the insensitivity of others who partied when he was dying, the media circus, and the people on these boards who enjoy venting their spleens. No matter what he has done, or what kind of person he was, the fact that people were gleeful that he died in the way he did makes me ashamed to be human.
@minim wrote:
What I don’t like is the baying for blood, the insensitivity of others who partied when he was dying, the media circus, and the people on these boards who enjoy venting their spleens. No matter what he has done, or what kind of person he was, the fact that people were gleeful that he died in the way he did makes me ashamed to be human.
I dont like mob mentality in most instances either Mims, but In this case Im not gonna protest too much. We are talking about someone who killed a man, and shoot innocent people in cold blood.
I dont know if this man suffered injustices or he was just a paranoid nut. I would suspect the later going by what Ive read.
Weve all suffered injustices in life. Normal people dont run out with a gun and kill innocent people in a shooting spree. If some people are gleeful they are maybe gleeful that a nut wont have another chance to kill more people.
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