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I remember being very moved to hear that one of the first things the Amish did, when faced with the aftermath of a spree killing in their community, was work to comfort the mother of the deranged guman as a person equal in loss to the families of the victims. A lesson in spiritual enlightenment that I think reflected very favourably on their creed and community.
@pikey wrote:
I remember being very moved to hear that one of the first things the Amish did, when faced with the aftermath of a spree killing in their community, was work to comfort the mother of the deranged guman as a person equal in loss to the families of the victims. A lesson in spiritual enlightenment that I think reflected very favourably on their creed and community.
Agreed, people often forget that the families of the killer/rapist/whatever are also victims, also suffer loss. Whatever the actions, he is still someone’s son, someone’s brother, someone’s friend, not only do they have to deal with their loss, they have to deal with the negativity that’s directed at them and the constant thought that maybe they could have done something to prevent it. That’s a heavy burden to carry.
I’m not saying that the mans family should be vilified and suffer because of what he did, end of the day, he’s the one pulled the trigger, he’s the one that was the thug.
What I am saying is that they shouldn’t be calling for any second post mortem, didn’t he just cost the taxpayer enough money already!! What about the family of the copper he’s injured, blinded!!! his life will never be the same again. As for the ex girlfreind being inconsolable, well i’m sure she’ll feel better when a new boyfreind comes along, seeing as how her ex killed the last one!! :roll: purleeeese, gimme a break! this man was a thug and his pathetic excuse is that he grew up without a father, well so did my son, but he’s not turned into a gun weilding thug!!!
I think they want a second post mortem as there is some doubt that he meant to shoot himself, as tazers were fired, and these may have caused muscles spasms causing him to pull the trigger.
My heart goes out to his family, and to his brother who begged to be able to speak to him to try and bring a peaceful end to it, who saw it all unfold on screen.
@nemesis wrote:
I think they want a second post mortem as there is some doubt that he meant to shoot himself, as tazers were fired, and these may have caused muscles spasms causing him to pull the trigger.
My heart goes out to his family, and to his brother who begged to be able to speak to him to try and bring a peaceful end to it, who saw it all unfold on screen.
And i’ll ask again, what about the familes of those he injured, killed, or don’t they count! :roll:
Whatever made him shoot himself, is a second post mortem going to bring him back? of course it’s not, but it’s going to cost more money though isn’t it, talk about milk it to death :roll: I already said his family shouldn’t be vilified or suffer because of what he’s done, but fgs, what about his victims!! it annoys me that everyone seems to have conveniently forgetten about them :evil: :roll:
I was horrified by the events as they unfolded. The man was clearly derranged and needed help, not to be forced into a corner and then effectively killed. They should have let members of his family talk to him. Yes, he did wrong, yes he was a violent man, but he should not have died like that. And I was disgusted by the scenes of people dancing in front of a pub whilst he lived out his last hours and minutes.
He should have lived, been tried for what he did, then given psychiatric assessment and help. And he should have served time for his actions. Do we not live in a compassionate world anymore? Have we returned to the days of an eye for an eye? A life for a life?
I am very saddened.
All I was saying was that I think that the family are entitled to know for sure what happened, even the negotiator said it shouldn`t have ended as it did.
I`m not convinced he took his life intentionally, i do think he deserved to die though, but I can feel pity for him as he must have been a tormented soul.
His victims are going to be more than just those he killed and injured, and yes they need support and help, but I think all people are saying is that his family are victims too.
If a post mortem did prove that his death was caused because of the tazers maybe his family would prefer that, maybe that would bring them a little comfort, his victims have the fact he is dead, maybe his family need this.
@minim wrote:
I was horrified by the events as they unfolded. The man was clearly derranged and needed help, not to be forced into a corner and then effectively killed. They should have let members of his family talk to him. Yes, he did wrong, yes he was a violent man, but he should not have died like that. And I was disgusted by the scenes of people dancing in front of a pub whilst he lived out his last hours and minutes.
He should have lived, been tried for what he did, then given psychiatric assessment and help. And he should have served time for his actions. Do we not live in a compassionate world anymore? Have we returned to the days of an eye for an eye? A life for a life?
I am very saddened.
Agrees but waits for someone to say that he should get as much compassion as he showed his victims..not a view I hold I hasten to add.
couldn`t agree more
The stand off couldn’t go on for ever. From what I’ve read his mental state was deteriating in the last few hours, and the Police must have felt that they had to act. I think the Police did everything they could short of blowing his nose and wiping his ar/se.
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