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    A tricky one. My parents generation did not connect golliwogs to racism because at that time there was one on a jam jar and dolls that people collected, but they would also not hesitate to warn my sisters “you better not ever bring home a black boyfriend”. Were they racist, by todays standards probably yes, by the standards of the time no, it was deemed “normal” in a white dominated society. Would I buy one, no, do I think they are inappropriate, yes.

     

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    #1011515

    And there she goes again! Bloss , my partner was , and children are Black!! And yes, i have blonde hair??? thanks for being so observant.

    No need to get your knickers in a twist, I merely made an observation.

    #1011522

    Ladies please dont argue about it. The only reason I started this thread was because I am discussing the issue elsewhere, and I wanted the views of JC users, that was all.  Lets,not argue eh?  Or this will be another thread that gets deleted. All I wanted was a discussion.

     

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    #1011525

    Lol !

    #1011526

    So why are you jumping on the band wagon? you have no black family? Oh i forgot ur paranoia makes you. :wacko:

    Why does it matter if she has black family or not? How do you even know that she doesn’t?

    But you still haven’t been able describe why you find them offensive.

    #1011528

    Tinsel was asking if there were any black people who post here..and whether they were offended, so I presumed Sophia was black as she replied.

    I have ~10% north African ancestry in my DNA if that is enough to count.

    Your comment oozes racism most likely from the upbringing of racist parents.

    Who? Where?

    I haven’t seen anything I would call racist.

    #1011532

    Somethings just are racist. Like the N word, and these dolls. Your disregard for the people affected by perpetuating a racist trope is what makes you a racist.

    This is like saying people who like the Ku Klux Klan robes and swastikas are into textiles and symbology? If you can’t acknowledge the racist history of these items you are committing a racist act. If you’re not willing to do that,you are choosing  racism. This  stereotyped Golly character is really offensive to some ,as would be a Hitler doll,a yellow Asian one with buck teeth, or an Arab one with a vest bomb. People should grow up and stop playing with racist dolls.

    Ps, Hartleys jam is much nicer and doesn’t need a golly to promote sales.

     

    #1011533

    Somethings just are racist. Like the N word, and these dolls. Your disregard for the people affected by perpetuating a racist trope is what makes you a racist.

    Oh, you were calling me a racist. Nothing is just anything, there always has to be a reason for it. And i’m not disregarding people affected. You claimed it was because of slavery, as far as i’m aware nobody on Just Chat is a slave, or has ever been one.

    This is like saying people who like the Ku Klux Klan robes and swastikas are into textiles and symbology?

    You are aware that the swastika is a religious symbol in both Hinduism and Jainism, it wasn’t invented by the nazis and has other uses. Hindus often paint them on their front doors, if you were to ban it then it would be offensive to them.

    Hitler doll

    Some people might find if offensive, I would disagree with them. But how would a Hitler doll be racist?

    Or to approach this from another direction, why should anyone care if its offensive, a doll doesn’t actually have the power to affect anyone in a meaningful way. Nobody has the right not to be offended.

    #1011536

    Gollies were based on the black minstrel shows, I thinnk. Regarded as great fun by me as a child – I saw the Black and White Minstrels in Morecambe’s Winter Gardens. When the red red robin comes bob bob bobbin’ along, along…

    But they’ve suddenly stopped appearing lol I wonder why???

    People who collect Nazi memorabilia are prefectly entitled to. I don’t find them offensive. I do get a teensy weensy bit suspicious, though – I always get funny when it comes to anything Nazi.

    John Ruskin, who died in 1900, has his gravestone in Coniston covered in swastikas – nothing to do with the Nazis. He was a fuuny bloke – he threw up on his honeymoon at his first sight of what an udnressed woman looks like, and refused to let his wife get undressed again, much less touch her evil body. He wasn’t a Nazi, though.

    but if someone jackboots around the house with a swastika armband and the Horst Wessel song blaring out, I don’t think of Hindus and again my suspicious nature starts to come out.

    I do have a soft spot for the Robinson’s golly brooches from my childhood, but I get funny about Nazis and the Klan and racists.

    #1011538

    but if someone jackboots around the house with a swastika armband and the Horst Wessel song blaring out, I don’t think of Hindus and again my suspicious nature starts to come out.

    That clearly wasn’t the kind of person I was talking about lol. But you can’t ban a symbol for some people, but make it okay for others.

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