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“would not be considered for parole for atleast 5 years and 108 days”.
Do you EVER imagine the pain and anguish family members go through when the above happens?
Why do you vote for a society that doesnt punish evil?
I’ve always voted Lib Dem so I’ve never been proud of my vote!
@emmalush wrote:
http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-13528096,00.html
“would not be considered for parole for atleast 5 years and 108 days”.
Do you EVER imagine the pain and anguish family members go through when the above happens?
Why do you vote for a society that doesnt punish evil?
Parliament make the laws and set down minimum and maximum sentences. Judges are answerable to no one. Parliament and it’s MP’s should be answerable to the people who put them in power, well that’s supposed to be the idea anyway, but as you and the rest of the country know Emma, it don’t always add up :roll:Another thing I saw this morning, on BBC news. A woman, an american woman, i’m sorry but I can never remember her name, but she’s been a huge campaigner in removing anyone who would be a danger to children in school, ie., peadophiles, sexual offenders etc etc. She’s been responsible for a lot of good work that’s subsequently been set in place.
She said that although she’s been here now for over 30 years, in her country, the US, Judges are ”elected” and they’re directly answerable to the public who vote them in. In cases such as this ‘Sweeney’ one, the general populace would be screaming for a life sentence, and life in the states means life, your carried out in a box. If the judges in America, were to act the way judges in this country do, they’d be out on their a@ses!!!
She said that perhaps it’s time this country changed to the same kind of system. I think that maybe she has a point!!
…….removing anyone who would be a danger to children in school, ie., peadophiles, sexual offenders etc etc.
Pity she doen’t mention the commonest danger to children in schools……other children. Bullying is assault and it’s high time it was treated as such.
@emmalush wrote:
http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-13528096,00.html
“would not be considered for parole for atleast 5 years and 108 days”.
Do you EVER imagine the pain and anguish family members go through when the above happens?
Why do you vote for a society that doesnt punish evil?
How do I vote for “society”- I am currently only able to vote for politicians, celebrities on reality TV shows and eejuts in Big Brother- I can’t vote for judges either
Shame becuase this could have been a good thread to debate sentencing and justice, however you chose to make a cheap political point out of a childs rape.
And as for your sanctimonious (look it up) clap trap about “Do you EVER….etc”- many on here have children, dont be so presumptious to assume we don’t spend a few minutes thinking of a family involved in this
It isn’t a perfect society, and I very much doubt it ever will be. But since this government came to power, judges have been granted the power to set a
minimum tariff on a prison sentence.@Ow£n Ka$h wrote:
It isn’t a perfect society, and I very much doubt it ever will be. But since this government came to power, judges have been granted the power to set a
minimum tariff on a prison sentence.True Owen, they have. But this was in place of the Home Secretary’s power to do exactly the same thing. So by meddling they have achieved absolutely nothing – as usual.
The fact is that the New Labour government introduced, fought for, and passed the Criminal Justice Act 2003 which REQUIRED that all prisoners sentenced to more than a period of 12 months be released after having served only HALF their sentences.
So we now have the unedifying sight of ”Dr” John Reid blaming Judges for passing sentences that are a direct consequence of his own Government’s recent legislation.
The Judge passed a ”life” sentence of 18 years. This was HALVED to 9 years – as he was obliged to do by New Labour’s law. He was then obliged to deduct a further 1/3 from this figure to take account of a guilty plea – which makes 6 years. Allowing for time served whilst on remand, this is how the actual sentence of 5 years in prison is arrived at.
Maybe this will go some way towards answering your question Lamby:
In England and Wales, a life sentence is a prison term of indeterminate length. Formerly, the Home Secretary reserved the right to set the “tariff”, or minimum length of term, for prisoners sentenced to life imprisonment, but since the Criminal Justice Act 2003 only a judge may set the tariff. The Act specifies three broad categories of murder with three “starting point” sentences. A “Whole Life Tariff” (known in the US as “life without parole”) exists for multiple murders which involve sexual abuse of children or terrorism, as well as any murderer who had come out of prison and killed again. If such a sentence is handed down, then a prisoner is unlikely ever to be released from prison. A starting point of 30 years exists for people convicted of single murders involving sexual or sadistic conduct, killing using a firearm, during the course of a robbery or the killing of a Police Officer. For other murders the minimum starting point is a life sentence with a minimum of 15 years. The average sentence is about 15 years before the first parole hearing, although those convicted for heinous offences serve their sentences significantly longer – Ian Huntley was given a tariff of 40 years. Some receive “whole life tariffs” and die in prison, such as Myra Hindley and Harold Shipman; there are currently around 25 people serving whole life tariffs in the UK. Reggie Kray was serving a whole life tariff but was released on campassionate grounds in August 2000, as he was 67 years old, suffering from terminal cancer and had spent over 30 years behind bars. He died just five weeks after being paroled. Prisoners jailed for life are released on a life licence if the parole board authorises their release. The prisoner must satisfy the parole board that they are remorseful, understand the gravity of their crime and pose no future threat to the public.
@Lambrini Girl wrote:
What on earth do you have to do to get life? Murder the Queen? :shock:
I think the Queen’s a very nice person, but I’d vote for anyone who promised to get rid of the Royal Family.
Vive la Republique! 8)
@Ow£n Ka$h wrote:
@Lambrini Girl wrote:
What on earth do you have to do to get life? Murder the Queen? :shock:
I think the Queen’s a very nice person, but I’d vote for anyone who promised to get rid of the Royal Family.
Vive la Republique! 8)
There are some forums I prefer not to visit because they are full of drivel !
Long live her Maj
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