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Doesn’t remotely affect me I didnt see any change to my life under any particular American president… laughed a bit more at Bush maybe
You didn’t notice the wars in Iraq and Afganistan we were drawn into, and the increace in terrorism and refugees that resulted from it?
None of which affected me
None of which affected me
I’m pretty sure it probably has done.
Pete is really a Chinese immigrant – real name Pete Tong.
you can tell for two reasons –
1 – he’s very good at IT (or seems to be in the eyes of this klutz, anyway
2 – he’s a Confucian, who believes that when you wake up all that matters is hearing the cock in the nearest village crow at the first light of morning.Or is that another of those Chinese religious philosophers?
Me knows it’s one of them, but me no know which one.
Also, Ms Dracula’s daughter, me not leaving your posts on sexism and the EU alone. me just busy sorting out me deafness.
drac,
you seem to take a pretty narrow definition of sexism. . I’ve seen the way women react when people speak to them in the way Trump talks about women. The demeaning talk can be pretty crushing, especially for some young women.My definition of sexism is the same as my definition of racism, which is to say one race/gender is superior to another one, or to grant special privileges based on a person’s race/gender. Well it isn’t crushing to this young woman at least, I don’t know what else I can say on this particular issue.
The release of a video from 10 years ago with Trump making obscene comments on women may possibly have sunk his campaign. I hope they do. Republicans are reacting in a hostile manner to Trump, who is already falling behind in the polls.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuHPRYkMEwI
I think it shows, drac, that your view of sexism (which I agree with) takes a very narrow legaistic interpretation. For a long time now, demeaning comments about race and sex (think of the way the N-word was used in the US South) are seen as the strongest indicators of a racist and sexist attitude.
I don’t support turning these words into a crime, but such attitudes are seen as increasingly unacceptable, and the mark of a boorish and ignorant person who deserves to be treated with contempt. They should be seen as despicable, not illegal.
These public attitudes betray a view of blacks and women as people who are inferior to the conquering race/gender. Blacks and women are seen as people who are victims, objects of abuse. They are rightly seen as prime examples of racism and sexism.
Trump’s comments on ‘Miss Piggy’ and ‘Miss Housecleaner’ are the tip of the iceberg for this obscene man.
[Am thinking of starting a EU thread again, drac. I like the way you debate – so far.]
TNone of which affected me
I’m pretty sure it probably has done.
You’re “pretty sure” it “probably” has done.
Very non committal, then again you and scep are trying to play at being politicians, so it’s to be expected.
You’re “pretty sure” it “probably” has done.
Very non committal, then again you and scep are trying to play at being politicians, so it’s to be expected.
Well I can guarentee it has effected everyone in the country, I just can’t specify how. If we never went to war then tax money would have been spent on other areas, road mantainance, hospitals, ect. If you use any service provided by the government then it would have been affected by this.
I’m not playing at being a politician, but I don’t see how that would be a negative thing if I was. If you don’t like our debate here, then don’t read it.
The release of a video from 10 years ago with Trump making obscene comments on women may possibly have sunk his campaign. I hope they do. Republicans are reacting in a hostile manner to Trump, who is already falling behind in the polls.
I didn’t actually watch the recording until just now, but I don’t think it will have any effect on his campaign at all. Most knows what kind of guy Trump is, and I don’t think anything he said in that would supprise anyone. Personally, I don’t really even see what was so bad about what he said, it was clearly said as a joke rather than a serious comment about what he is going to do with the woman. I probably wouldn’t find it very funny if it was said about me instead, but I wouldn’t care that much either.
Trump’s comments on ‘Miss Piggy’ and ‘Miss Housecleaner’ are the tip of the iceberg for this obscene man.
Clinton described hispanic voters as ‘Taco Bowls’, so this isn’t something unique to Trump.
I think it shows, drac, that your view of sexism (which I agree with) takes a very narrow legaistic interpretation. For a long time now, demeaning comments about race and sex (think of the way the N-word was used in the US South) are seen as the strongest indicators of a racist and sexist attitude.
I don’t support turning these words into a crime, but such attitudes are seen as increasingly unacceptable, and the mark of a boorish and ignorant person who deserves to be treated with contempt. They should be seen as despicable, not illegal.
In regards to the N word, I dont think I have ever actually said it myself. But i think it is irrational to place so much importance on a word itself, the same meaning can be achieved using a combination of other words. The word itself isn’t the problem, the meaning is the problem.
I sometimes make jokes that some people describe as ‘sexist’ or ‘racist’. It is obvious that I didn’t mean what I had said. The people the joke s were aimed at never taken offense to them, only other people who are offended on their behalf. This does not mean I should be treated with contempt or be seen as despicable. There are of course people who say such things more seriously, but to take offence to something that is obviously a joke is rather rediculous. As I previously said, the intention, and meaning behind a statement is more important than the actual contents of what is said.
[Am thinking of starting a EU thread again, drac. I like the way you debate – so far.]
Sure, but i’m not sure how much more I have to say about the EU until the elections in France and Germany happen, which will influence how negotiations go.
In the UK, if a male politician suggested they “walk up to ‘attractive’ women and “grab them by the pussy” because they can “do anything you like” and that they also “just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss, I don’t even wait … and when you’re a star they let you do it. You can do anything.” then their political career would be over and police charges filed if any victims then came forward.
It doesn’t surprise me in the least that the sexist, misogynist Trump made those comments and holds those vile views about women, but it does surprise me there is no mechanism in place to remove him from the US Presidency race on grounds of suitability.
Trump who lied that he built his business empire from a $1 million loan from his father, has a history of lies and fabrication, covering up his previous behavior, both private and public. A man who avoided federal income tax for 18 years because he strategically placed his casino empire in bankruptcy over $900 million debt.
Trump reminds me of the EU and the various threats they are now making to the UK.
“Walk away from our abusive relationship and we will punish you severely”.
In the UK, if a male politician suggested they “walk up to ‘attractive’ women and “grab them by the pussy” because they can “do anything you like” and that they also “just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss, I don’t even wait … and when you’re a star they let you do it. You can do anything.” then their political career would be over and police charges filed if any victims then came forward.
Charges on what ground? Nothing he said is illegal, and shouldn’t be. How do you know that no male politician has said things like this, what Trump said was in private and was not meant for the public.
What about if a female politician said something about “Grabing a man by the dick”? The way you worded your response makes it seem like this would be okay.
It doesn’t surprise me in the least that the sexist, misogynist Trump made those comments and holds those vile views about women, but it does surprise me there is no mechanism in place to remove him from the US Presidency race on grounds of suitability.
Trump isn’t a misogynist, that would mean that he hates women, everything he says makes him sound as if he likes them quite a lot.
Trump who lied that he built his business empire from a $1 million loan from his father, has a history of lies and fabrication, covering up his previous behavior, both private and public. A man who avoided federal income tax for 18 years because he strategically placed his casino empire in bankruptcy over $900 million debt.
How did he build his business empire then? And the leaked tax returns don’t show how much taxes he has paid, only that he didn’t pay them during one year. This is because devaluation of property seems to count as a loss in US tax law, it’s not tax evasion if it is legal to do so.
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