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De ja vu
Anyway getting back to UK’s quotes from the Huffington …. is that not the US’s equivalent to The Sun ?
So it must be true ….. not
It makes for good convo though.
Reason….er, yes.
Drac, try xenophobia, which is a more wide-ranging term than racism. Racism is linked, and the two can be confused, but Trump is guilty on both counts. It’s an inward, insular approach to life, becoming more common.
In the US, it’s up to individual states to make the rules for qualification as a presidential candidate, and these rules differ widely. It’s a federal system.
Funnily enough, only 500-odd American actually vote for president. Clinto and Trmp will not be appearing on ballots. No Presidential candidate ever does. You vote for electors, not for a president. The electors then go on in Decemeber to vote for the President directly. It’s a funny system, written in 1787, to ensure that demoracy didn’t interfere with the process.
Some electors are rogues and vote for a candidate of their own choice. Once, one elector decided to vote for Walter Jones, the local postman, because Mr Jones was a good postman who braved all weathers. So, Walter Jones got 1 vote in the elction, as opposed to 500-odd for the other two candidates.
I wasn’t wanting my thoughts validating off anyone, least of all by you with a smartarse “er, yes”, it’s just I put it plain and simple and not with all the bullshit of two wannabe politicians like you and Draculina …….. waffle waffle waffle.
I wouldn’t of put it quite so bluntly but am inclined to agree with Reason …. No offence Drac but not all comment needs analyising & some of us make tongue in cheek comments.
Mind yer manners Reason …… (gives that look ) !
Oh dear
Better not swear at some of these jumped up slimy, arrogant, up their own ar5e, five knuckle shuffle tossas.
Think I got away with that one
well im not sure you did tbh
but the powers that be on the jc jury will excuse your profanities
due to mitigation reason(s)
just watch “yer lip”
and you should be fine,,thumbs up emo.Reason….er, yes.
Drac, try xenophobia, which is a more wide-ranging term than racism. Racism is linked, and the two can be confused, but Trump is guilty on both counts. It’s an inward, insular approach to life, becoming more common.
Xenophobia would perhaps be appopriate, not sure why I didn’t think of it. Perhaps Trump is racist, but nobody seems to be able to provide concrete evidence that he is, which was the original point I was making. I think we will disagree somewhat on the issue of Xenophobia, other cultures have problems (ours does of course also) and I don’t think we should be blindly accepting of other cultures withought challenging those problems.
Funnily enough, only 500-odd American actually vote for president. Clinto and Trmp will not be appearing on ballots. No Presidential candidate ever does. You vote for electors, not for a president. The electors then go on in Decemeber to vote for the President directly. It’s a funny system, written in 1787, to ensure that demoracy didn’t interfere with the process.
That pesky democracy, always getting in the way of things.
Some electors are rogues and vote for a candidate of their own choice. Once, one elector decided to vote for Walter Jones, the local postman, because Mr Jones was a good postman who braved all weathers. So, Walter Jones got 1 vote in the elction, as opposed to 500-odd for the other two candidates.
Walter Jones sounds like a good guy, maybe they should bring him back. Probably a better choice than the current candidates.
drac you make my eyes go wonky
but in a nice bleary sort of way.I wouldn’t of put it quite so bluntly but am inclined to agree with Reason …. No offence Drac but not all comment needs analyising & some of us make tongue in cheek comments.
No offence taken, but I prefer to analyse things to determine if my beliefs are the correct ones, which I why I make these long posts here.
oh don’t be minding arc,drac she can be a right feisty b!tch at times
Walter Jones….. loved him alongside Jack Lemmon
oh don’t be minding arc,drac she can be a right feisty b!tch at times
Oi you Karty I was telling that Reason off for being rude !!!
Ps Nowt wrong with being fiesty either … defending meself gainst you bullyboys
drac,
I’m glad you take debate and discussion seriously, and not as an excuse to show what a command of bad language and insults you have in your vocabulary. I don’t think that makes you a wannabe politican, any more than it makes me one. just someone who takes life seriously.But I do think you’re confusing a technical discussion of racism with a common sense approach. You rightly say that Mexicans are a nation, not a race, but then you accept the racial element because they are hispanic. A huge number of Americans are hispanic, but that’s a sign of America’s racial make-up. When Trump demeans mexicans, he’s actually attacking hispanics. When he demeans women as ugly, pigs, dogs etc, it could be argued that he isn’t really insulting women, because he makes gestures of ownership and power when introducing his wife, but that’s reasoning gone out to lunch – he is demeaning women.
I don’t really like to assume what is in peoples heads when they speak, maybe he ment mexicans, maybe he ment hispanics. Neither of us can say definitively what he was trying to say. I don’t even think he does half of the time.
Personally I find his comments towards women to be that harmful, I can understand why some people would though. Most of the time I just find his comments to be funny.
Similarly in his attacks on Obama for not being American, he is pandering to racial prejudice. The first black President is not really an Ameican, he says. Technically, you can make all sorts of distictions, but in the political game played by Trump (and farage in thsi country) he’s pandering to race prejudice.
The same goes with his attacks on muslims. Islam is a faith, not a race – you rightly say that. But the vast majority of Muslims don’t engage in acts of terrorism. It’s a minority hailing from a particular area in the popular mind – an area inhabited by what Americans (and some Brits) call ds’ and ‘ragheads’ – a slur against Arabs. popular feeling knows what Trump is talking about – he speaks in a barely hidden code understood by all, who feel he’s saying what they want to say about hispanics, blacks and Arabs.
When people say Muslim I usually imagine a Pakistani man, rather than an Arabian one actually. But maybe that’s because I have a few friends there. Obviously not all Muslims commit terrorism, but a worrying number of them are sympathetic to the ones that do, and as we saw in Belgium would be willing to hide them from the police. More needs to be done about this, I have a few ideas of how to help with this issue, none of which are as authoritarian as Trump’s.
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