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@Bad Manners wrote:
The difference is that if some1 is smoking or drinking, fugging up their lungs and livers then its their lungs and livers to waste.
I think its a completely different thing if some1 has a transplant and recieves some1 else’s organs. I would say it becomes their duty then to protect those organs that were given to them instead of some1 else.I have to agree with this statement. I guess I just expect someone who has to go through something as serious as an organ transplant to, I don’t know, “see the light” or something…….. you know, be grateful they’ve been given the opportunity for another chance of life. Maybe that’s wrong but that’s how I see it and that would be how I would feel.
And I would also say that yes I would donate an organ to a member of my family even if their addiction had caused it. But I would bloody well stalk them for years to make sure they had given up their addiction and play the guilt trip if they ever slipped back.
my cousin was given a new liver
the seventh in the world
she took a paracetamol overdose@dizzybrunette wrote:
Diane
Ohhhhh to be a know all like you Diane
i am not saying that i am superior..
you seem to know a lot about addiction… are you an alcoholic?????did anyone MAKE him have that first drink????????
No, i cant see that myself.
Yes i drink, in moderation before you start mouthing off at me again but no one makes you have one after the other and dont say its because of troubles in his life. We all get themaddiction yes….. stupidity even more so.
Emma xx
And people deal with things differently. No one knows why he turned an alcaholic, or the reasons for it. You are judging him, yet you know nothing about him. Look at all the addicts in the world. But no, it’s George Best, a footballing legend, so lets all attack him! Do you REALLY think he drinks just because he enjoys it? It’s way past that, and for him, unless you are a recovering alcaholic. You have NO idea about the situation! End of.
=D> =D> =D>
I can see I spose, both sides of this argument, discussion, whatever! For whatever reason he did it, George Best did what he did.
Lamby at the end of the day,was spot on!!! if any one of us had a brother, sister, husband, wife, child, whatever, we’d be shouting from the rooftops for their right to it, no matter what theyre lifestyle had been. I dont think GB was looking for the fame he got, (not like the Beckhams) he was just good at what he did.
@Lambrini Girl wrote:
@morticia wrote:
@Bad Manners wrote:
The difference is that if some1 is smoking or drinking, fugging up their lungs and livers then its their lungs and livers to waste.
I think its a completely different thing if some1 has a transplant and recieves some1 else’s organs. I would say it becomes their duty then to protect those organs that were given to them instead of some1 else.I have to agree with this statement. I guess I just expect someone who has to go through something as serious as an organ transplant to, I don’t know, “see the light” or something…….. you know, be grateful they’ve been given the opportunity for another chance of life. Maybe that’s wrong but that’s how I see it and that would be how I would feel.
And I would also say that yes I would donate an organ to a member of my family even if their addiction had caused it. But I would bloody well stalk them for years to make sure they had given up their addiction and play the guilt trip if they ever slipped back.
That’s where addiction comes into it Morticia …. I don’t think GB could help not “see the light” anymore than I could help say.. stop smoking. I am reasonably well educated, I know all the risks … There I still sit though, a smoker through and through. A while back, I had a scare …. Pain in what felt like my lungs. Got sent for an xray. Before the results came back, I discussed it with my family. In the event of the worse case scenario, they were not to bully me into quitting smoking. They agreed, not because I pressed them into it, but because they knew that, if I did try to stop, I would end up a different and miserable person. I am not condonning any addiction. I am merely pointing out that, to some people, living with their addiction is sometimes the best policy. As it turned out, the fears were unfounded. I still smoke.
Lamby, I guess it’s down to the individual, because unlike you, I did give up smoking after being a compulsive chain smoker for 20 years [22 months so far, no mood swings and no missing it] – because I was scared of what could happen. Okay, I haven’t had any “scares” but the thought alone prompted me to take action. It’s how strong your mind is – and that’s where support comes in !
Poshy, I was just agreeing with Bad’s statement, not commenting on GB’s condition. I am quite aware that GB’s current state of health is not due to him contuining drinking hence why I haven’t commented on it on this thread.
I will admit to softening my views on GB because of some of the posts on this thread but I do stand by my original post above.
Hi Poshy, I think I was getting a bit out of my tree in my post – I felt bombarded ! So sorry if it looked like I was getting a bit “arsey”!
And definitley no need to apologise – You were more than right to repeat the correct facts for those that had not grasped them. :D
I think you were correct about his status – I have read his progress in the papers, and I do wonder at the publicans that still served him knowing what he had gone through [wasn’t he supposed to have told pubs not to let him buy alcohol?] – I hope they are suitably ashamed of themselves.
I believe your wellbeing can only be as good as the support you have around you.
Amen to that. 8)
@morticia wrote:
@Lambrini Girl wrote:
@morticia wrote:
@Bad Manners wrote:
The difference is that if some1 is smoking or drinking, fugging up their lungs and livers then its their lungs and livers to waste.
I think its a completely different thing if some1 has a transplant and recieves some1 else’s organs. I would say it becomes their duty then to protect those organs that were given to them instead of some1 else.I have to agree with this statement. I guess I just expect someone who has to go through something as serious as an organ transplant to, I don’t know, “see the light” or something…….. you know, be grateful they’ve been given the opportunity for another chance of life. Maybe that’s wrong but that’s how I see it and that would be how I would feel.
And I would also say that yes I would donate an organ to a member of my family even if their addiction had caused it. But I would bloody well stalk them for years to make sure they had given up their addiction and play the guilt trip if they ever slipped back.
That’s where addiction comes into it Morticia …. I don’t think GB could help not “see the light” anymore than I could help say.. stop smoking. I am reasonably well educated, I know all the risks … There I still sit though, a smoker through and through. A while back, I had a scare …. Pain in what felt like my lungs. Got sent for an xray. Before the results came back, I discussed it with my family. In the event of the worse case scenario, they were not to bully me into quitting smoking. They agreed, not because I pressed them into it, but because they knew that, if I did try to stop, I would end up a different and miserable person. I am not condonning any addiction. I am merely pointing out that, to some people, living with their addiction is sometimes the best policy. As it turned out, the fears were unfounded. I still smoke.
Lamby, I guess it’s down to the individual, because unlike you, I did give up smoking after being a compulsive chain smoker for 20 years [22 months so far, no mood swings and no missing it] – because I was scared of what could happen. Okay, I haven’t had any “scares” but the thought alone prompted me to take action. It’s how strong your mind is – and that’s where support comes in !
Poshy, I was just agreeing with Bad’s statement, not commenting on GB’s condition. I am quite aware that GB’s current state of health is not due to him contuining drinking hence why I haven’t commented on it on this thread.
I will admit to softening my views on GB because of some of the posts on this thread but I do stand by my original post above.
i gave up smokin after 29 years and 80 cigs a day(obviously i didnt smoke 80 a day for the full 29 yrs just the last 9), an ive been smoke free now for 17 months and COUNTING
:D :D :D :D :D :D :Dand YES that is something to be proud of
@*Dawny* wrote:
i gave up smokin after 29 years and 80 cigs a day(obviously i didnt smoke 80 a day for the full 29 yrs just the last 9), an ive been smoke free now for 17 months and COUNTING
:D :D :D :D :D :D :Dand YES that is something to be proud of
Yes indeedy Mishette !! Well done you xoxoxoxo
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