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  • #424430

    I eat my peas with honey
    I’ve done it all my life
    It makes the peas taste funny
    But it keeps them on the knife

    #424431

    @susieq wrote:

    personnaly speaking poetry isn’t always for others to appreciate but for a way to express oneself

    absolutely spot on there
    the greatest poets wrote thier stuff whilst going through some kind of trauma in life ,in hard times i can write poems , when happy i dnt know where to start,
    i cant do happy poems lol

    #424432

    everyones different , take music for instance , i like music for the words in the songs , dylan couldnt sing but was a poet , weller too , i love them both , others like the tune , theres a poet called ted hughes i love his stuff , others would get it or understand

    #424433

    I’m a Poet

    but I am not THE poet

    I like poetic lyrics and lyricists and I like clever plays on words. I have never studied poetry, well not modern poetry, but I do study lyrics. I wish I could write music, as to be able to write both the words and the melody is a gift.

    #424434

    Simply reading a poem and trying to understand it is ‘analysing’, don’t you think? We can never really know what another person is thinking or trying to say because we can’t actually get ‘into’ their head and feel what they are feeling-we can only guess with our ‘theory of mind’. So a would-be poet has to interpret what they are feeling into language which can be a difficult task to say the least, then perhaps commit it to paper and the reader has to assimilate the poem and interpret it all over again, often in the context of their own life, experiences and language skills. The meaning is likely to be so distorted that I wonder why we bother writing poetry at all because no one will ever really understand what you’re trying to say.

    I think most of us probably agree that much ‘academic analyses’ just seems so beyond what is sensical just like art critics comments (anyone watching the BBC2/4 Beauty season on visual arts? The things they say about art seem ridiculous) and I sometimes think these people deliberately do this to exclude the ‘ordinary person’ like myself, from entering into their realm and to give themselves an air of credibility when what they’re doing is just very simple. Anish Kapoor was a prime example of this last night on ‘Beauty’. Then, most of us ‘simple folk’ are too scared to say, “hang on a second, that’s just a polished concave bronze mirror-what it does and how it looks is rather appealing but its nothing to do with ‘humanity’s struggle with the inner tragedy caused by his metaphorical expulsion from Eden which was a result of his curiosity and desire for knowledge, however forbidden'” Its just a beautiful object that says whatever the viewer wants it to say and so you as a would-be messenger will always fail in your task of trying to convey anything. Don’t give us your unintelligible comments on it.

    I’m going to make a (pretentious) confession now: I am a huge fan of haiku and waka.

    #424435

    great poets can write a life time of philosophy in one verse so yes it is how we persieve it , thats how its meant to be i think

    #424436

    in the words of a robbie williams song , ” there selling razor blades and mirrors in the streets , cocaine , chopped up with a razor and snorted from a mirror , next day , on come down , look at ur self in mirror and feel suicidal , the razor .thats how i see the meaning of those words, he goes on to say hes scum in thats song, his feelings of being on drugs ??

    #424437

    Verse is for healthy
    arty-farties. The dying
    and surgeons use prose.

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    #424438

    I’d like to see a life times philosophy in one verse, that can be understood, without ambiguity and differing interpretations by different people! Th reader sees what they want to see not always what the poet wanted them to see and that’s why I wonder what value poems are.

    An eminent musicologist I know once told me that lyrics and poems are not the same thing since lyrics tend to be more literal than poems (there were many other differences too, but I can’t remember them!). Lyrics can be poetic but they’re not poems, and I’d posit, especially those of that soaring intellect and master of language, Robbie Williams :wink: Angels indeed…..

    #424439

    Why don’t you write one then.

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