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It disturbed me too Becky.. but, the more I read I realised there was so much more to situations like this and they should be based on their own merit.
and to quote PB:
“So many people suffer for those who parade the vanity of their high minded ethics / morals and seek to impose their beliefs on the individual from a distance”.
Which is what I did initially, although, I still do worry about the kind of precedent it sets. I am thinking too… as you are, if in the future, surgery benefits someone other than the person it is performed on without their consent… is it right or wrong?
@lil fek wrote:
It disturbed me too Becky.. but, the more I read I realised there was so much more to situations like this and they should be based on their own merit.
and to quote PB:
“So many people suffer for those who parade the vanity of their high minded ethics / morals and seek to impose their beliefs on the individual from a distance”.
Which is what I did initially, although, I still do worry about the kind of precedent it sets. I am thinking too… as you are, if in the future, surgery benefits someone other than the person it is performed on without their consent… is it right or wrong?
So many things medically are questioned. We could be here all day covering them. Weather i think some are right or wrong it is all my opinion BUT i am not in their shoes thank god so really my opinions are fact based rather than experience.
This ‘lil fek’ is the question that has concerned public moralists since time immemorial. It would appear that there seems to be no ”right” or ”wrong” answer to it. One person’s ”right” is another’s ”wrong”.
I always find myself bothered by or in conflict with people (or groups) that seek to lay down moral imperitives for others, based on their own strongly held beliefs. I tend to refer to them as single issue bigots – but you get the general idea.The list is endless from smoking through abortions to discrimination.
It seems to me that the position of the mother with her grossly disabled child fits into this category. The howls of outrage screamed at her from the armchair moralists are deafening. They seem to ”know” that it is morally ”wrong” for her to make this choice for her young pre-pubescent daughter.
I think that each matter should be judged on its individual merits. What may be a good decision with positive outcomes for one family might well be the opposite for another. Generalisations in these sorts of cases are not and cannot be helpful to the individuals involved.
“I think that each matter should be judged on its individual merits. What may be a good decision with positive outcomes for one family might well be the opposite for another. Generalisations in these sorts of cases are not and cannot be helpful to the individuals involved”.
I agree PB………….but when this becomes the norm… the decision will be taken away from the individual then who decides…………. that’s what scares me!
@forumhostpb wrote:
I always find myself bothered by or in conflict with people (or groups) that seek to lay down moral imperitives for others, based on their own strongly held beliefs. I tend to refer to them as single issue bigots – but you get the general idea.The list is endless from smoking through abortions to discrimination.
Where you find yourself bothered b people that seek to lay down moral imperitives, i feel the same way that even though you havent experienced it you seem to feel strongly about the pro side where some feel strongly on the anti. And to call someone a bigot for feeling the opposite to you seems BIGOTED to me. There will alwas be someone to argue both sides but you cant condem them for it. Everyone has a right to their say, if we all agreed how boring life would be. See both sides open your mind a little.
Becky, I haven’t taken sides on this – simply expressed my personal opinion. I am most certainly NOT suggesting that someone that doesn’t share my view is a bigot nor am I attempting to impose my view on others – as you seem to imply.
I AM suggesting however, that those who seek to IMPOSE their views on others because of their strongly held beliefs are bigots.
A fine point maybe, but nevertheless an important distinction. I apologise if this point was too subtle for you.
@forumhostpb wrote:
Becky, I haven’t taken sides on this – simply expressed my personal opinion. I am most certainly NOT suggesting that someone that doesn’t share my view is a bigot nor am I attempting to impose my view on others – as you seem to imply.
I AM suggesting however, that those who seek to IMPOSE their views on others because of their strongly held beliefs are bigots.
A fine point maybe, but nevertheless an important distinction. I apologise if this point was too subtle for you.
I did read it in a different way and so do i apologise. I just see 2 sides but dont feel more strongly for one. I wonder if there was an easier way round it, but maybe they did.
careing for a child thats disabled is hard work and even harder when they are older i know this yes i have a disable son but if it was a girl i would do the same not to make it easyer for me but for my child
i think they are doing it out best intrest for there childI have to say puppy, since posting this I have seen a lot more on Ashley and other disabled people, and you have my admiration for all the hard work and patience it takes to make a comfortable life for people that need extra care.
As said in the first post I believe too they had the best interests of Ashley at heart.
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