yeah it can be clinqy like here, though people are made welcome, its hard for new users just to join in, though we get the odd new one arriving, over 30 people from the forum are all meeting for a gig in glasgow at christmas though, i am sort of debating if i want to meet up, as i have issues with one or two people who may be going, nothing that can’t be avoided being adult, just i think somtimes its best just to leave folk to it and keep out the way :)