"People's Vote"

sceptical guy wrote:

These levels of ‘depravity in my case are going to be derived from the Briefing in The Economist of 24th November. Get a back copy in your local library? I hope never to use them, but if no-deal becomes a reality I will.

This what I found amusing, use the ‘scary’ Briefing for what exactly? to light your coal fire, roll it up to chase cats away who are crapping on your rose bushes, to wipe your backside if you run out of loo roll?

You can already predict the future today, the MSM liberal press will no doubt report that someone died because medicine was held up in Dover etc and he will be immediately posting angrily waving his “Briefing” furiously and producing the ‘scary’ “evidence” that any old tom dick or harry could argue is a direct result of Brexit and we already know, should we actually leave the EU, that the MSM liberal press will be at it for years anyway.

It isn’t even that though is it, and you sort of got it Moose, he name-checked the ‘Economist’ and suggested the public library because to gain access to the full article, you have to subscribe and pay, it’s just inverse snobbery, patronizing and automatically assuming the peasants don’t have the means to pay to access it online and of course it is beyond our intellect anyway (or it’s just sh*t end of) and also attempting to portray the ‘Economist’ as having some sort of special kudos in economic circles, which quite frankly it does not and in academic circles is widely recognized as being centre right and classical liberalism in an economic sense.

This is the man who sneers at technical arguments and who has spent the past 6 years dismissing evidence out of hand… except when it suits him of course and only him. He won’t post it now in case the predictions of doom and gloom are completely false and he ends up looking like a right plonker.

Ching Ching.

• This reply was modified 5 years, 11 months ago by  Ge.

Paige, no offense , I don’t normally respond as I find your posts well no , anyway ,

1) what we joined , I could say were sold down the river on, in the 70,s, nearly 50 years ago was not the EU, I realise you are young, but the common market is so far removed from what the EU is it’s nonsensical to compare the two

2) we have always helped people from war zones , however we had a choice as to how many , depending on the circumstances and we are a small island and should be able to limit that ,  if and when our infrastructure can not cope and the nationals of the country suffer as a consequence

3 &4 ) Animal testing restrictions would have come about naturally, ya know like slavery ? We didn’t need the EU to become one of the First Nations to condemn slavery despite our close association with it

4) Dont need a visa lol ? yes and look what’s happened ? Great for backpackers , not so good for people on Westminster bridge or the Manchester arena , is being checked and obtaining a visa really such a hardship ?

I’ve lost count ? Forced us into keeping our own currency ? Is this an attempt at sarcasm ? I seem to remember that was a bloody fight and aren’t we glad now we did it ???  Or did you mean it was kind of them to let us ??  

i get that the ‘ young ‘ think that you are the only ones ever to be ‘young’ , no one before you travelled, saw the world, experienced new cultures etc etc, obviously everyone born before   1995 never went anywhere and sat at home with Scep reading the Economist and eating marmite on bread , followed by a Vienetta for tea every Sunday ….  no offense but do grow up 

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sceptical guy wrote:

thin ice wrote:

And this is where stupidity kicks in

never once was it said that the figures on the side of a bus were going to be given to the nhs

the 350 million was an Example of how it could be spent rather than be given to the eu

the bus was a publicity campaign by a group of leavers

not the government

incidentally Teressa pledged in 350 million in the last budget to the nhs

That’s not actually correct.

Nobody said it was the government who was promising £350 million to the NHS. It wasn’t jsut a group of leavers, though it may not have been your section of the leave campaign. Ity was the group of Leavers which had the backing of the big names – Boris J, Gove etc etc

Nope. It didn’t exactly say let’s give £350 million a week to the nhs, but there was no small print to explain anything (I checked, it was a big bus) and the impression it made was that we were spending all that money on the EU (a lie, the figures were vastly inflated) and the implication was that it would go to the NHS instead.

True, it’s the talk of the second-hand car salesman selling you a car without an engine (we never said there was an engine, guv) but the implication was there.

may’s did not give the NHS £350 million a week. It was given before we left the EU, because it could have been given at any time. The reason it had been held back was to do with a cruel politics of austerity, the same cruel politics which the ECB was imposing on Greece (along wiht the World Bank and the IMF). A policy, not an institution. The EU, or the British Treasury, could be associated with a different policy with a different director.

You do realise we haven’t left the eu   Don’t you

Ted heath was blackmailed into joining the eu I reckon.

He was a wrong un 100pc.

For the record I distinctly remember campaigning against animal testing when I was very very young, possibly a foetis !….. 🙄😉