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"People's Vote"
What would your response be to so called "people's" vote?
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16 December, 2018 at 5:52 pm #1110575
Perhaps someone could explain how the Leave élite think we can avoid the suffering of a no-deal Brexit, because the ‘stories’ I’ve heard from everyone else, Leaver and Remainer, seem pretty convincing!
What is your favourite part of the EU?
16 December, 2018 at 9:08 pm #1110579Untill we have no deal we won’t be able to get a deal
when we leave in March with no deal then all the European ports will be grid locked with all the goods and food stuff they can no longer send here
then French and German industrialists as well as spainish growers Dutch clog makers will kick the arsed of their governments and tell them to sort a deal out
we will then Bevin the driving seat and will dictate a deal that suits us
Maybe. But maybe not!
But you’re just spelling out the consequences of no deal.
We were told during the referendum that we’re all in th money once we leave. The Brexiteers drove a big red bus around the country with the sign of how much money the NHS was going to get, and people naturally thought why should we pay into the EU when it could go to our NHS.
Lies! Absolute lies, and we all know that now – apart form the fanatics who want no deal.
Do we all have to get damaged to get Brexit?
If this were a war, and we had just rescued our army from Dunkirk, then sure. A united nation would tighten its belts and get ready for the death and destruction that would follow.
But it’s not a war. You’ll make it into a war, with damaged relations for years to come, with all the consequences.
Pritti Patel was calling on the British government to starve Ireland until the Irish give in (don’t the Tories insist on a national curriculum in which we learn of British history, especially incidents such as the Irish Famine?!?). Do you realise what the impact of even making statements such as that make?
We’re not a united country, it’s not Hitler we’re fighting. If you declare an economic war on the EU, you’d better beware of the consequences for the UK, because any damage brexit is going to do to us, especially poorer Brits, will be magnified in an economic war.
Jeez! The fanatics here who put their heads in the sand and don’t think things through!!
And this is where stupidity kicks in
never once was it said that the figures on the side of a bus were going to be given to the nhs
the 350 million was an Example of how it could be spent rather than be given to the eu
the bus was a publicity campaign by a group of leavers
not the government
incidentally Teressa pledged in 350 million in the last budget to the nhs
16 December, 2018 at 9:28 pm #1110580So apart from all that, what do you want ?
I want us to remain in the EU. Why is that in doubt?
I don’t want a referendum – at this moment. We should rejoin at the appropriate moment – when people realise that life outside the EU is worse than life inside the EU. That could happen quite quickly.
But if the referendum comes now, so be it.
How can only 1 vote each in a democratic decision made by the people be tyranny ?? How many votes do you want ??
I have no idea what you are talking about now.
I said to only vote once is tyranny, meaning that to have a vote to leave and then stop people voting to change their mind or reaffirming their decision is tyranny.
You know exactly what I am talking about as does everyone else. We know you ‘wanted’ to remain in the EU. I said as much, why are you suggesting it’s in any doubt ? You wanted to remain but you lost the vote so we are leaving, why are you saying that had leave lost we would be demanding another vote ? I disagree, we’ve lived with proposterous crap we get from the EU for years I think people would have carried on as normal ! It is because you lot were so sure we would be remaining that you winge and moan and demand we all try again, until we get the result you want. A referendum is 1 vote per person, and the side which has the most votes wins, are you following so far . Because you want another vote hoping a few will change their minds does not make it tyranny, it makes it you lost !
Grasping at straws now, it’s ludicrous quite frankly and makes a mockery of any valid points you may have made earlier
17 December, 2018 at 4:02 am #1110583Perhaps someone could explain how the Leave élite think we can avoid the suffering of a no-deal Brexit, because the ‘stories’ I’ve heard from everyone else, Leaver and Remainer, seem pretty convincing!
What is your favourite part of the EU?
What stories ? What Plummer ? Someone in the EU said ? I’ve heard that ,… etc It’s been reported that ,, etc etc ,, why are your heresay claims more valid than anyone else’s and why do you feel the need to repeat everything ?
Thin, quite surprised at your ‘ informed ‘ opinions, don’t mean to sound patronizing, just didn’t think it was your ‘ thang ‘
For clarification purposes, I , personally have no issue with people who voted remain. They are entitled to their opinion and their vote. The only issue I have is in the delivering of said opinions. Repetition, language used to school children, saying “ I’ve no idea what you are talking about” in an effort to belittle and dismiss people, when , In fact they have no direct response . No one knows the outcome and as much as some people think that by constantly blathering on and on repeating everything , just jumbling up the wording , quoting googled facts and figures and re-hashing quotes from Newspapers as if it’s their own thoughts , has made this debate practically unbearable
Sorry
17 December, 2018 at 4:14 am #1110585Out of curiosity, does anyone else not have a clue what I’m on about ?
So rude and patronizing …. again
17 December, 2018 at 8:13 am #1110586Perhaps someone could explain how the Leave élite think we can avoid the suffering of a no-deal Brexit, because the ‘stories’ I’ve heard from everyone else, Leaver and Remainer, seem pretty convincing!
What is your favourite part of the EU?
What stories ? What Plummer ? Someone in the EU said ? I’ve heard that ,… etc It’s been reported that ,, etc etc ,, why are your heresay claims more valid than anyone else’s and why do you feel the need to repeat everything ?
Thin, quite surprised at your ‘ informed ‘ opinions, don’t mean to sound patronizing, just didn’t think it was your ‘ thang ‘
For clarification purposes, I , personally have no issue with people who voted remain. They are entitled to their opinion and their vote. The only issue I have is in the delivering of said opinions. Repetition, language used to school children, saying “ I’ve no idea what you are talking about” in an effort to belittle and dismiss people, when , In fact they have no direct response . No one knows the outcome and as much as some people think that by constantly blathering on and on repeating everything , just jumbling up the wording , quoting googled facts and figures and re-hashing quotes from Newspapers as if it’s their own thoughts , has made this debate practically unbearable
Sorry
for clarification Moose all my opinions are informed
17 December, 2018 at 8:16 am #1110587Moose, you are just wasting your time. It isn’t just on here, on this tiny little site, trying to get to the bottom of why a supposedly ‘liberal’ class of people are so obsessed with a trading union that does no favours at all for the average working class man and woman in the United Kingdom and when that same average man and woman made their views known during the referendum immediately afterwards once the result became apparent they were branded ignorant and stupid and for the past two and a half years have been the target of a sustained vicious attack by Remain.
You know Remain have reached the gates of hell, the depths of depravity, now that they drag out Blair and his vicious henchman Campbell at every opportunity to preach their sermons, their sins in the Middle East now forgiven as the establishment airbrushs out their atrocities in the Middle East and history rewrites both of them as the champions of Remain.
Project fear has failed miserably, people are more entrenched in their views than previously because the liberal establishment have failed miserably to present a persuasive argument. You can only initimidate some of the people some of the time and the ludicrous scare stories being constantly churned out have no actual basis in reality, nor fact.
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17 December, 2018 at 8:46 am #1110588Gerry, you’ve just preempted my next post which was the frustration about wheeling out the multi millionaire Blair to voice his saccharin and particularly unwanted opinions, wonder how much his back hander is !? It’s like a badly written 1970’s comedy sketch, cue Benny Hill running around a tree…
Thin, as I said I didn’t mean to come across as patronizing , sorry, I also agree with some of your opinions
However, the burning question still remains…. Does anyone understand what I say ?? Lol
17 December, 2018 at 9:25 am #1110589Moose this thread isn’t about you 😊
17 December, 2018 at 9:27 am #1110590However, the burning question still remains…. Does anyone understand what I say ?? Lol
Yes of course. Ask yourself though why you have asked yourself that question and without sounding patronizing myself I hope you realize that the constant head f*ck games certain chatters play on these boards are consciously designed to erode confidence and self belief…
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