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19 August, 2008 at 10:44 pm #364899
@pats wrote:
my first bulldog had entropic eye……..she needed 2 ops….this condition is hereditary..her mother and father shouldnt have been mated but were. and we paid a grand not knowing we could never show her ourselves at small dog shows.
my reef was bred by a breeder who has been in the business 40 yrs and has judged all over the world. he refuses inline breeding if he has a dog with faults.
most backyard breeders are in it for the money alone.Its like with Boxers, I get so cross when I see puppies that still have their tails docked, they havent been used as working dogs in years!
And breeding from White boxers too… it encourages blindness.
Oh I would love to read your forum, I can imagine the fur flying! :lol:
19 August, 2008 at 10:45 pm #364900@pats wrote:
my first bulldog had entropic eye……..she needed 2 ops….this condition is hereditary..her mother and father shouldnt have been mated but were. and we paid a grand not knowing we could never show her ourselves at small dog shows.
my reef was bred by a breeder who has been in the business 40 yrs and has judged all over the world. he refuses inline breeding if he has a dog with faults.
most backyard breeders are in it for the money alone.Yes there is alot of decent breeders also but even the top winners of the likes of Crufts are sometimes unhealthy but look nice !! (in their opinion) . Did you watch the show pats ? bulldog was one mentioned didnt they look so different originally to what they do now ? i like bulldogs they have lovely temperments as a rule tbh but if they get those imperfections even if not from inbreeding they use that dog and another with a similar imperfection to keep breeding it through the generations hence why a bull dog can go from a non roman shaped nose to having one, though i dont know a great deal about that breed, to me thats wrong so very wrong… i have 2 shepherds and suffice to say neither have roach backs and i would never buy one like that its criminal and painful to look at, they are of the working dog shape rather than the show dog, fortunately because of their use in the forces, police etc there is still that breed option but alot of dogs like for example the bulldog that option is no longer there or extremely rare… if you want a bulldog the chances are you will get the nose that goes with it.(as far as i know in the limited knowledge i have on them ) i was shocked about the rhodesian ridgeback also i never realised that ridge was a form of spina bifida or that they culled the puppies without the ridge, though i believe some just neuter rather than cull but if it is actually a form of spina bifida the culling and / or neutering is going to eventually mean ones with spina bifida are the only ones left … again so very wrong.
19 August, 2008 at 10:55 pm #364901@(f)politics? wrote:
@pats wrote:
my first bulldog had entropic eye……..she needed 2 ops….this condition is hereditary..her mother and father shouldnt have been mated but were. and we paid a grand not knowing we could never show her ourselves at small dog shows.
my reef was bred by a breeder who has been in the business 40 yrs and has judged all over the world. he refuses inline breeding if he has a dog with faults.
most backyard breeders are in it for the money alone.Yes there is alot of decent breeders also but even the top winners of the likes of Crufts are sometimes unhealthy but look nice !! (in their opinion) . Did you watch the show pats ? bulldog was one mentioned didnt they look so different originally to what they do now ? i like bulldogs they have lovely temperments as a rule tbh but if they get those imperfections even if not from inbreeding they use that dog and another with a similar imperfection to keep breeding it through the generations hence why a bull dog can go from a non roman shaped nose to having one, though i dont know a great deal about that breed, to me thats wrong so very wrong… i have 2 shepherds and suffice to say neither have roach backs and i would never buy one like that its criminal and painful to look at, they are of the working dog shape rather than the show dog, fortunately because of their use in the forces, police etc there is still that breed option but alot of dogs like for example the bulldog that option is no longer there or extremely rare… if you want a bulldog the chances are you will get the nose that goes with it.(as far as i know in the limited knowledge i have on them ) i was shocked about the rhodesian ridgeback also i never realised that ridge was a form of spina bifida or that they culled the puppies without the ridge, though i believe some just neuter rather than cull but if it is actually a form of spina bifida the culling and / or neutering is going to eventually mean ones with spina bifida are the only ones left … again so very wrong.
i am a member of a dog forum poil and a bulldog forum………u wouldnt blive some of the stuff that goes on. i have 5 generation pedegrees fa my dogs.and the same breeders and parents crop up over and over. we have shown our dogs and my reef won bulldog of the year aged 8 months.i think i once posted pics fa shaz. there are so many rules and regulations u wouldnt blive it!
what annoyed us was our first bully albeit bought as a pet only.had too have both her eyes operated on and the vet looked at us like we were to blame. that was years ago and after meeting and showing reef with other breeders and showers u learn the pitfalls.19 August, 2008 at 11:00 pm #364902Shame though isnt that yet again through human intervention things get fc uked up
19 August, 2008 at 11:05 pm #364903@(f)politics? wrote:
Shame though isnt that yet again through human intervention things get fc uked up
yup.
19 August, 2008 at 11:06 pm #364904I’ve seen a doberman with a full tail and i thought it looked quite good
19 August, 2008 at 11:38 pm #364905Heinz 52 always works well with me. :lol:
19 August, 2008 at 11:54 pm #364906The cruelty also goes on in Greyhound racing.
I’ve owned quite a few Greyhounds,some good and some not so good,but the lengths some of the bastads will go to,to try for that elusive top class Greyhound,holds no bounds.Some of the cruel foookas drown full litters of pups at birth because they don’t have the “correct”bone structure and muscle formation …….. at birth!!! ffs
Then when their short racing careers are over(usually about 4 years),most are put to sleep and their have been cases of extreme cruelty that i know of,some starved to death others thrown out the back of vans on a motorway and one where a prosecution was brought involved a complete bastad throwing them off the cliffs at Whitby ….. before some foooka gets on my back about it,i always re-home mine,i even give the foookas an RSPCA type visit before they get the dog.
Sorry for deviating slightly but just wanted to show it’s not just show dogs but working dogs as well.
Remember ….. i don’t foookin care
20 August, 2008 at 12:24 pm #364907@*Sian wrote:
Heinz 52 always works well with me. :lol:
i’m more of a heinz 57 type of gal meself :lol:
yeah ur quite right netty you make a good point.
20 August, 2008 at 12:52 pm #364908you sure it’s not pedigree dogs exposing themselves the seedier side of canids :shock:
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