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I agree with you Sharon. This guy is slinging insults around because he has made a mistake – entirely on his own – by believing stuff that is in the papers and not checking things out for himself. Imagine being taken in by a story re-printed from 2005 and recycled as ”new” ffs!!!
If his attitude was slightly less aggressive (or even combative) then I’m quite sure that the NHS publicity guys would be more than prepared to assist him with information. When I chatted to Rory, we had a good conversation and he wasn’t in the least bit defensive – why should he be after all? He was perfectly open and frank with me about this fake story and the embarassment that it had caused; he was extremely friendly and helpful and expressed great sympathy with Nick Horobin’s unfortunate situation.
Oh and before you go around telling people to issue writs for libel … do take the time and trouble to understand what the tort of libel is and how you may or may not make a claim for damages as a result of being libelled.
Nick, you should wind you neck in a bit my friend and understand that we are not all “sanctimonious idiots” – there are those on here who are in a position to give you very good and sound advice (including some of the contributors who to my knowledge work in the NHS and who may …. just may have saved you from making a total fool of yourself by tipping you off to the fake story, upon which you seem hell bent on basing your claim.
Oh and whilst I am at it …. may I express my own thanks to the NHS employees who posted on here (you know who you are) and who tipped us all off to the fake story in the tabloids.
Apologies to everyone except PB and Newspeak, the comment was aimed at them and not the rest of the people on here. As for quoting that Rory Hegarty is a nice guy, we only have your word for it. because on your instructions PB we phoned Mr Hegarty’s office and we were told that he was unavailable for comment at that present time, and when my fiance gave his name, his secretary then said that she had been ‘told’ that he was out of the office all day. Is that a coincidence? How can we see what a person is like if he wont even talk to us. You gave us a source to look into and we did and it led to a dead end. if you would take the time to actually research a bit more do you think so many people would jeopardise their careers on one story. Yes it would be ground breaking news, and if thats the case then why have none of the tabloids picked up on the fact that it isnt true….. because it is true. We have spoken to people at the News of the World and they have told us to ignore these rumours that were started by God knows who, and that they would NOT be printing the press release. Just out of interest where is this press release supposed to be released and why now all of a sudden?
We are not basing our case solely on the Yorkshire Ripper story, we are not so naive as to think that that would hold weight for us. We are in the process of doing a lot more research, but you have jumped on the bandwagon of the rumour mill and formed your own opinion of that based on what you have read. Who really truly knows what the truth about it is. We could go around in circles keep saying you said this, you said that. It’s like being back at school, well i’m sorry if our opinions aren’t in the same vein as yours but we have to keep going with this and we are NOT backing down!!!!
Well do keep us informed as I am intrigued to say the least, not only in that you get what is fair to you, but to also see that this story is “true”.
I hope to god you are who you say you are, as I am developing suspicions (Im sorry to say but will be very pleased that you proove me wrong) that you may not be the real victims in this… as I said, I hope you proove me wrong.
What is the “common factor” that your fiance mentioned in his post but chose not to share?
Hiding facts would not be the way to gain the support you need.
One way to prove you are who you say you are is to post a pic of yourself holding a tube of Tomato Sauce in your hand.
@butterflyangel wrote:
Apologies to everyone except PB and Newspeak, the comment was aimed at them and not the rest of the people on here.
Well thank you for that! I think you have a total cheek. You join the message board, that I have the pleasure of moderating; you post you petition and ask for everybody’s help (and sympathy); and then proceed to abuse both me and another new member (Newspeak) when we both are attempting to prevent you from making a total mess of your claim. Yes you have a claim … but you are going the wrong way about it.
FYI – one of our members has today spoken with a highly legally qualified person on your behalf, primarily as a result of the posts from both Newspeak and myself. So far you have managed to piss them off as well.
If you would take the time to actually research a bit more do you think so many people would jeopardise their careers on one story. Yes it would be ground breaking news, and if thats the case then why have none of the tabloids picked up on the fact that it isnt true…..
You really cannot be THAT naive surely. This was recycled news … NOBODY’s job is on the line … nobody’s career is being jeopardised over this fake story. The Media will simply keep their heads down and publish nothing by way of a correction. For them its old old old news anyway and they have much better things to do.
Just out of interest where is this press release supposed to be released and why now all of a sudden?
We’ve done this already – but in case you haven’t bothered to do your own research. Here is the link to the West London Mental Health NHS Trust homepage. http://www.wlmht.nhs.uk/ This is their own ”official” site. At the top of the page in the search box type in “Press releases” and you will be taken to the press release archive pages. http://www.wlmht.nhs.uk/search.asp?zoom_query=press+releases
Click on the first link (at the top of the page) and it will take you to the press release issued on 21st January http://www.wlmht.nhs.uk/news/press_releases.html You will notice that this is the first and only press release issued this year – they clearly don’t do very many huh?
Hopefully you will now see that this is a genuine press release issued on behalf of the NHS Trust that runs Broadmoor hospital and in which they CATEGORICALLY DENY that Peter Sutcliffe was paid anything at all.
@NHS Press Release wrote:
Contrary to misleading reports which have recently been repeated in a number of newspapers, we wish to make it clear that Broadmoor Hospital has not made any compensation payment to Peter Sutcliffe following an incident at the hospital in 1997. No such compensation payment has been sought and stories of a six figure sum being paid by the hospital are totally without foundation.
Hopefully this is clear enough for you!!!
………..but we have to keep going with this and we are NOT backing down!!!!
It has not been suggested that you should back down (by which I mean withdraw your claim). What you really should do is to base your claim for compensation on sustainable facts and make it against somebody that has the funds to pay you on success.
Oh and speaking of doing ”proper research” …. it only took me a few minutes on Google to find this >>>
http://thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/display.var.1932269.0.0.php?act=complaint&cid=924705
It is a web page from the Bradford Telegraph and Argus. Guess what it says???? No ???? Then let me quote it for you …..
The brother of Yorkshire Ripper Peter Sutcliffe has denied claims the mass murderer is planning to sue Broadmoor hospital for negligence after he was wounded by a knife-wielding killer.
Sutcliffe, 61, of Heaton, Bradford, suffered a cut to his cheek when fellow inmate Patrick Sureda lunged at him with a metal knife in a bid to gouge out his right eye last weekend.
Sutcliffe had already been blinded in his left eye when he was stabbed with a pen by another Broadmoor inmate ten years ago.
A national newspaper claimed Sutcliffe was considering legal action over the latest attack, but his younger brother, Mick, of Bingley, refuted that.
“I have spoken to Peter on the phone and he has not mentioned legal action. He is not bothered about compensation,” he said.
“He doesn’t smoke and can’t drink because he has diabetes. All he needs money for is phone calls and letter-writing.”
Mick also denied reports his brother had been paid almost £200,000 in compensation for the attack on him ten years ago.
He said: “He didn’t get a penny for that and didn’t put in a claim for any money.
Well well well … who’d have thought it eh???
Look this has all got out of hand. I dont know why you think we are not the real victims, did you not see the picture of my fiance at the top of this post. That is not false. If you are so unsure then contact the East Midlands Ambulance Service or the BBC or even google his name Nick Horobin and you will see for yourselves that it is true about his accident. I dont know if i dare show these posts to my fiance because what was said yesterday really upset him, and you people on here who don’t know him are accusing him of lying. If you knew just what hell he’s been through you wouldn’t dream of even saying that he was lying. he was doing his job, he’s not doing this just to keep pushing for a huge sum of money as you seem to think. he wants to get rightful compensation so that he can do his nurses training, how many of you out there have had the job of your life that you would hate to lose, then have it cruelly snatched away from you with no chance of ever returning to it, because thats whats happened to Nick. We appreciate your help, but all this talk about the Ripper is going off the point of why we started this. I dont know why that press release was issued because we haven’t been able to talk to Mr Hegartty because as soon as Nick told them who he was, the woman on the other end of the phone told Nick that his questions were too confusing, when all he asked ws whether Peter Sutcliffe had been injured, and they were very evasive, so what does that say about it. I dont want to keep going down this road, we just want to get on with our campaign. can we just get back to the point of this post.
We are grateful for all the help but instead of keep going on about the Ripper, can we get back to the initial point of this post, to help my fiance get signatures for his petition. Maybe the Ripper got paid, maybe he didn’t, whichever our fight still goes on. Their must be more people in this country who have lost an eye and received compensation. we are looking into that, if anyone wants to help with that instaed of focusing and wasting energy on that, we would be grateful. But please dont insinuate that Nick is faking his injuries because i know that he will be really upset if he reads that.
With great respect ”butterflyangel” (or whoever you are) there is not and never has been ANY suggestion made on this thread that Nick Horobin is or was lying about either his injuries or the circumstances of his accident.
I therefore fail to see why you are getting so aggressive ”butterflyangel” – unless you aren’t his fiance at all and are simply another wind-up merchant using somebody else’s misfortune to cause a bit of controversy
The entire thrust of all the posts (that your claim that Peter Sutcliffe received £196,000 in compensation is somehow unfair on Nick) falls over on the now proven basis that Peter Sutcliffe never made a claim in the first place and was NOT paid any money at all by Broadmoor Hospital.
This has now been proven beyond doubt both by the official press release from the NHS AND by his own brother’s statements quoted in the Bradford Telegraph and Argus.
From Nick’s own website we can all see that what started this campaign off was a perceived unfairness or as he phrases it “injustice”.
@nick Horobin wrote:
“My Campaign was Started by my Fiancee after we both saw a story in the Sun newspaper on Boxing Day 2007 about Peter Sutcliffe the Yorkshire ripper.
He had been stabbed in the eye by a fellow inmate and had lost the sight in that eye, he had also recieved some facial scarring, for this he was awarded £196,000 in compensation, it is this injustice that we are campaigning against.”
So – as you put it yourself – “all this talk about the Ripper” is exactly what your post was all about and Nick’s campaign was, by his own admission, started by his fiancee (who may be but is not necessarily the user posting as ”butterflyangel”) when they both saw the story in the Sun.
Wishing to get back to your ”campaign” is pointless as there is now provably nothing to ”campaign” about, so I would suggest that you stop throwing allegations around and instead focus on ways to improve Nick Horobin’s offer of compensation.
What do you think we are doing you pompous ass. Yes I am his fiancee, just leave us alone now. if you’ve got nothing better to talk about then dont talk at all. to be quite honest im bored of reading your rantings that have nothing to do with why we are now doing it. have you nothing better to do. i AM looking into other ways of backing this claim so BACK OFF and do something more productive than shooting us down when we are trying our best. if you can do any better than us with this you help us instead of being against us all the time.
As a new reader to this particular thread, I have to say butterflyangel that you should be ashamed with some of these posts you have made latterly. If you can’t accept help and advice from people that have quite obviously taken the time to do a little bit of investigation on your behalf then perhaps you should ask for your support elsewhere, perhaps where people will sign blindly without having any background information that can be percieved as fact. From what I have read, it won’t matter if you get 1 million signatures supporting your petition if your argument is based on such fragile facts.
I do wish you all the best, as have most here, despite your nastiness, but I fear you will be pissing in the wind, and hopefully you will learn to digest through experience, and not be quite so fast to dismiss out of hand people’s attempted help in future.
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