Paradises lost?

When i first read doa’s initial post i felt myself full of, “it happened during the tories” .. as a child ,born in 1960 i can remember the so called “good times” .. I agree with the debt thing,,once ya could NOT get debt ,and once everyone had a decent house,,then the tories sold off the housing stock,without re building ! they sold the things ,we once held dear like rail,and privatised the N.H.S !

kids became,, im better than you !! as WE have double glazing and a funky Kentucky fried door ! neighbours in small communities became ” get OFF my land” ! this is MY house,,i PAID for it so ya CANT play on the streets !
the kids sat in houses,scared to play.developed a need for computers and sega megadrives.

the unions were fvcked.. so NO one to support an entire generation that needs them more than ever !

and debt is free ! take a loan says the Shylock from the Provvie ! we will only hound ya and make ya feel even more the underdog if ya CANT pay high interest !

so welcome the latvians.the poles,the bombay folks that take over industry here like N.C.R.. traditional working class manufacturing ,engineers.. ALL the jobs are gonna go to Bombay as its quarter wages ! Shadow the workers in scotland.. and soon it will ALL be ours !

damm, I wish i had a Labour Government too Doa !

@rubyred wrote:

footnote.. i did myself an experiment last year,with all the companies e mailing or sending junk mail.. i applied to EVERY one of them for a £20.000 loan and EVERY one of them accepted me !

Really Rubes?? :shock:

Umm… you wouldn’t have a lend of a tenner then would ya?

:P

@rubyred wrote:

@Sgt Pepper wrote:

@rubyred wrote:

footnote.. i did myself an experiment last year,with all the companies e mailing or sending junk mail.. i applied to EVERY one of them for a £20.000 loan and EVERY one of them accepted me !

Really Rubes?? :shock:

Umm… you wouldn’t have a lend of a tenner then would ya?

:P

and none of them stand a snowballs chance of getting a penny back :)

i didnt accept ye wee daftie,,was a matter of principle.

A fiver then?

:P

@rubyred wrote:

footnote.. i did myself an experiment last year,with all the companies e mailing or sending junk mail.. i applied to EVERY one of them for a £20.000 loan and EVERY one of them accepted me !

i’m gonna try that :lol:

@minim wrote:

Slayer, I am naturally a glass half full person, I find it difficult to be too negative for too long, but do you really think that we are in trouble?

I’m 42 n for the first time in my memory, I can genuinely see a scenario where we are in big trouble- I guess I’d equate it to how it felt in the 1950’s with the Cuban crisis and the world on the brink on nuclear oblivion…it’s only on the role of a dice

The Western world relies on fossil fuel, the majority of which is produced by countries who don’t like the West- it affects our basic standard of living- food, heating and transport costs- basic societal building blocks- it is not difficult to see one scenario of a society slowing imploding as people cannot afford to heat their houses, feed themselves or move about the country.

AND thats without the honey bees which are even more disturbing

There’s lots and lots of scare stories, conspiracy theories etc which abound, even more so since the internet took hold BUT

Google about Colony Collapse Disorder- 130,000 species of plants (including food stuffs) rely solely on pollination by bees

Einstein (allegedly) once said that the human race would die out within 4 years of the absence of bees….we may be about to find out

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2007-05-02-honeybee-die-off_N.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colony_Collapse_Disorder

I think we are at a global cross roads and about to decide which way to turn- it may be that we won’t know where the road leads until it is too late to turn back

Yep- I think genuinely and honestly we are in a whole pile of trouble