Our council “homes”

@dead_on_arrvial wrote:

so you’re a local counciler then?

No I’m not a Councillor. I have been co-opted onto the O&S Committee as a Council Tax payer and a Parent Governor Representative (PGR). In this context I am non-political and simply scrutinise the decisions of the Councillors and the Executive and satisfy myself that they are in the best interests of the tax payers in general.

BTW – if you’re so bothered by Brighton Council and their spending policies, why don’t you get yourself involved in the O&S process and do something about it?????

Can anyone else see the inconsistency of point and total contradicition in there?

“Maybe if you would like to see more funding for local schools”

“instead of making the rest of us subsidizer your children’s schools and heath care”

Also

“and don’t have anything to again by joining such Committee’s”

And yet you started off and then continued with criticising how government money is spent, isnt THAT something you would have to gain? The ability to influence it in a way you DO agree with?

Or is it just more preferable to not put any real effort in and whinge like a girl who missed some jimmy chu shoes in a sale?

You seem to be happily swallowing the governments jiz and drinking down willingly, the entire public spend on schools, benefits of EVERY kind and subsidised housing pales into insignificance compared to the amount the government wastes of frivolities, donates to foriegn countries to line rich peoples pockets, gives to companies in the name of subsidies and fleeces the population out of in the gise of PFI’s, select committees, assett striping of businesses and public services and their resale to private companies owned by politicians friends who they have shares in and get given cushy chairmanships on as a thank you along an endless stream of manipulations of rules

But the government says immigrants, the unemployed, single mums, pensioners or whoever they choose for that month is the “cause” and the “bad guy” and like a well trained brainless pavlovian puppy you swallow everything they offer to the hilt and then bend over willingly just for good measure lol

You, and people like you are everything thats wrong with this country because you blindly believe everything youre tiold without question as tho its true, youre a willing puppet to spin

Ok fairy snuff then

But most of those I covered earlier

The council homes are only expensive to run because they are being made to be, private landlords even ones maintaining thousands of properties do so AND make a profit

I would rather see a family who couldnt afford to buy by any other method buy an ex council house than a massive company who would actually get it even cheaper or for free as has happened when many of the housing association partnerships have been set up

If a company can run the same housing stock, renovate it AND make a profit then IMO a better set of questions would revolve around why the council cant seem to manage it

Secondly, remove council housing and you have a climate where landlords can then price people out of housing of any sort just because they dont fit the profile they are looking for

Council housing isnt the issue, the issue is the efficiency, completely get rid of it and you STILL pay peoples rents, you just pay more for them as private rents are higher AND you line the pockets of someone who is in most cases already loaded to begin with and who probably got given all their council houses for free which is surely more unpallateable?

I personally would like to see as I said the housing managed by the council but as effeciently as a private company does it, for the monies that would be profit for that private company then ploughed back into building more houses (again like a business), the staff that maintain them could also be allowed to work as a company meaning council gas fitters, electricians, glaziers, carpenters, builders etc would be in part or whole subsidised by competing with local tradesmen

Aside from that use them to build the new houses whilst using unskilled unemployed people to act initially as labourers to reduce the costs but whilst also teaching them skills in the form of an on the job apprenticeship that isnt in a classroom but on a building site thus adding to their work experience as well as their skillset

A percentage of the housing could then be sold off directly to fund the operation short term with the rents from the others funding it long term as a rolling replacement of housing stocks and then only the properties over a certain age would be sold off leaving the remaining housing stock as being always newer than say 25 or 50 years old

As I said, as with many nationally owned or run services the cost isnt the problem as they invariably cost the tax payer more if privatised as with rail, electricity, water etc etc ad infinitum, the problem isnt the fact its nationally owned, its the fact its not run efficiantly, selling it off is a case of throwing the baby out with the bath water and just serves to line rich peoples pockets, perpetuate golf club politics and back handers whilst shafting the poor majority at every turn

“If you want something to be different to how its always been you have to do something you’ve never done before”

A few facts for YOU

Most school leaveRs are going onto higher education, than doing apprenticeships.

Not MOST, “more than before” as a percentage, but over a million 16-18 year olds dont even show up on those statistics as they now cant claim dole and ARENT in further education

Many of the ones IN further education are still there trying to pass the GCSE’s they were nowhere near passing when they should have been, we also have a higher rate of children leaving school with numeracy and illiteracy issues than we had 10 or 20 years ago which is rising year on year

“Most companies are not running apprenticeship programs any more dew to the high numbers of adult tradesman’s who still working”

You’ll find thats mostly due to foriegn tradesmen immigrating here as our own apprentice trained ones are the highest group of people emmigrating out of the country, we are currently losing nearly half a million people a year all of whom are the better skilled people with the better work ethics rather than the dregs as we seem to be the only country in the world who welcomes other peoples cast offs and useless folks with open arms and a benefit cheque

“Most building sites only have a few English workers on them”

That would depend on area I guess, around here you WONT be employed if your british english on many sites which are now all polish, same goes for many of the companies I do work for around here including but not limited to 4 bus and coach companies, two engineering firms, at least a dozen packing companies, a rag recycling company, three window and conservatory manufacturers, 3 security companies and 5 building firms

Because the poles will do a 60-80 hour week for a 40 hour minimum wage salary

“And all councils offer a welfare package for low paid or the umployable who rent from private landlords”

They offer the same whether its private or council, which with many private rents equates to them paying £10-20 more upto the max they will pay and then family themselves having to top up anything above that, many private landlords also WONT rent to anyone on benefits

“You kind of thinking of liberal wishy washy thinking is the reason we are such a problem in the first place.”

Either you dont actually read anything I write or you dont actually know what a liberal is, cant decide which it is, maybe its both

“Why don’t you go back to picking up your benefits and leave the thinking to those who have to pay your rent”

I’m an electrical contracter, I employ 9 technical and 3 office staff so duh

“Try getting a job and start living in the real world.”

The one you seem to live in ISNT the real one, just because it might seem that way to you merely means your prozac dosage is perhaps a bit too high or doesnt mix with your alcohol intake too favourably

“I do hate total morons like you who think they know better than the rest of us.”

Stop talking then and you will be much more chilled!!

What do you have a GCSE in politics? May be “AS” in art?

Purely technical and management, but I’m beginning to think you have a degree in Soap opera studies as time passes