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27 May, 2007 at 3:59 am #7113
Brighton has some of the worst council homes in the county, Whitehawk and Moulscome housing estates are so bad that buses need police escorts after dark.
Brighton & Hove City Council owns just over 13,000 properties, 11 per cent of all housing in Brighton & Hove.
The houses and flats are at best in a poor state of repair.
http://www.brighton-hove.gov.uk/index.cfm?request=c1109621
So it comes has no surprise that local council has been sending immigrants to live there for many years and there has been “trouble”.
In the past the police just did early morning raids looking for burglars, drug dealers and bank robbers, but now they’re more likely to be looking for terrorists.
But in a city of 300,000 people, we are all starting to ask questions why so many black and Arabs are living in council homes.
After all we are told they only make up about 0.5 percent of the population of the city, but they are more likely to be living in council run property that there white counter parts.
Its seem that our city council is 500 times more likely to give council property to members of the ethnic communities than someone who’s white and from the UK.
Why are they doing it?
Well there a simple answer, The Racial Harassment Forum (RHF) labels it “institutionally racist” in a report in 2005.
It turns out that in 2004 the council had to deal with 1635 complaints of “racial harassment”.
http://www.voice-online.co.uk/content.php?show=6183
No surprise than now they are bending over backwards for keep them happy.
There has been a steady rise in racist incidents ranging from name-calling to physical violence in the city and it’s easy to lay the blame for it on “recent terrorist events” but its more likely to be the high numbers of ethic communities moving into the poorest parts of our communities.
Now be are being ask to find extra money for building and repairing the local council homes.
http://www.brighton-hove.gov.uk/index.cfm?request=c1141121
I’m force to pay £2,683 per year for council tax now, like most my home is in the maxim band. (Band “H” over £320,000, its not like you can buy a house in Brighton for less than £400,000.)
Don’t get me wrong; I don’t mind paying a bit more each year to improve these homes if they’re where for local people, but there not.
After looking at Brighton’s council home eligibility criteria for housing people, most local people don’t stand a snowball in hells chance of being house by the council.
But the rest us can still meet the costs of repair and building them in the knowledge that we are helping build and maintain new ghettoes in the city.
28 May, 2007 at 12:57 am #271690I don’t know what to say that dead..but felt it needed some kind of reply.
28 May, 2007 at 10:24 am #271691I would like to point out that its not just my local council who are doing this, it’s happening across the country.
But I do take more of an interest in my local council and try and keep up-to-date with there polices.
Council housing was needed after the world war 2 dew the number of homes destroy by bombing and the pledge to remove the slumps from our town’s and cities.
In Brighton they bulldozes part of the town centre and put up a new shopping centre, conference centre and a cinema with 2 nightclubs.
Removing about 500 2-bed rooms fish mans cottages and moving the tenants to new council homes to the east of the town. These cottages would be worth about £250-300,000 at today’s prices.
The local council has always followed the latest fads or trends and does make some mighty gaffs.
It’s made up of labour and the green’s that believe what good for them is good for the rest of us.
I wish it were true.
So what is the point of council housing in the 2007?
Most people own to try to own their homes.
Most council tenants get a reduced market rent and try to buy there homes at a reduce price after a few years.
Few people in the communities meet the eligibility criteria for housing by the local councils.
The housing stock is old and in need of expensive repairs and being use by special interest groups has a way of gaining support.
They’re a haven for crime and drug dealers and seem to a track them.
Unlike most local services like the Police, schools and rubbish removal, we are all paying for something we have no access too.
So why are we being to ask to build and pay for more of them?
I think its time we put an end to council homes once and for all.
Sell off the remaining housing stock and use the money for the good of the whole community and not just those who central government tell us we have to continuously subsidized.
28 May, 2007 at 10:35 am #271692@dead_on_arrvial wrote:
….The local council (Brighton) has always followed the latest fads or trends and does make some mighty gaffs……….
This is because Brighton is the gay centre of the South East and the local council is probably run by a load of poofters …….. oh and of course ”pummers”.
28 May, 2007 at 11:14 am #271693When was the last time you ask what your local council where spending your cash on pb?
Don’t you think you should find out?
28 May, 2007 at 2:40 pm #271694the same applies to every council across england if a family are on the waiting list and are in b&b for instance they are passed over as they have a roof over their head. but if a family from somalia etc turn up they are housed immediateley as they are homeless.
we as a nation have become the dumping ground for europe africa and asia for all their unwanted and criminals as they know once they are here they will be housed fed and kept warm all for free. and we suckers just pay for it all for them. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:28 May, 2007 at 6:13 pm #271695I dont think getting rid of council housing is exactly a move forward, like with privatisation of the utilities and privatisation of services the problem isnt that they CANT be run effectively, merely that they arent
If a private landlord can manage to meet all requirements, rent a property AND make a living then a council that doesnt have to make a profit SHOULD be far more capable
Add to that the fact that many of the “poor folks” you mention are on benefits and ghetto their rent paid and you actually increase the governments outlay by making them then have to rent more expensive private housing as well as lining someone elses pocket into the bargain
That particular angle hasnt been missed by the politicians either, property and shares in property leasing companies has been one of the largest growth investments of politicians private investments for the last decade which as when they were doing the same shift into utility companies and then later private health care companies would seem to indicate the long term goal is to asset strip our housing stock too so the already rich can become even richer
When a council sells of a council house to its tenant they dont actually get the money, it goes to central government, which then at its discretion often sends it abroad to third world countries to line millionaires pockets there.
What we SHOULD IMO be doing is having council led building programs of cheap housing for rental, perhaps with some being sold off to finance the venture along the way and with it niether reveiving nor giving any money to central government
Aside from that it would also be a good way to teach people in a real enviroment every building skill from surveying through bricklaying, carpentry, plastering, plumbing, electrics up to building inspection at a reduced cost whilst improving and replacing the housing stock
Looking at this as an outlay only problem is the way the government WANTS you to look at it, when in the real world renting and building houses is a money spinner for everyone it seems except the government, which is also the only organisation whos employees cant also line their own pockets from it oddly enough, quelle surprise!!!! :shock:
As with many other public services, the aim here is to run it down to the point where people WANT it to be privatised, and then the people who already have more money than they will ever need can make even more once the government has approval to sell off the housing stock for peanuts as its already doing around the country with the intervention of housing trust schemes where a private company can renovate the houses to new specs AND make a profit all on the same rent?????????
So how come the council couldnt?
Answer is they could have IF the people at the top WANTED them to, but wheres the retirement fund in that approach?
28 May, 2007 at 6:19 pm #271696Oh yeah, a ghetto btw osnt formed purely because its council housing, nor because people are poor
Its brought into existence by a collective grouping of people devioud of morality, decency and consideration for others
Money also isnt an issue as everyone whatever colour gets the same benefits, infact as all councils have dedicated advisorts to advise ethnics on what benefits they can claim but whites have to figure it out themselves chances are the ethnics will be getting more rather than the same or less on average
And yet we have oodles of whities living in council housing on the exact same money but WITHOUT it being called or resembling a “ghetto”, why do you think that is if housing and money is frequently cited as the cause?
Perhaps the problem isnt the housing, isnt the fact they are poor, isnt even their skin colour as many of the same colour DONT live in such an animalistic way
Perhaps its just the people themselves living the only way they are capable of living, like animals rather than civilised human beings but then trying to blame everyone but themselves for it afterwards
28 May, 2007 at 7:25 pm #271697ive never seen an asian family living in a council house at all but when they colonise an area of any town it turns into a ghetto and its nowt to do with being brown or being poor they just prefer it that way….
28 May, 2007 at 8:57 pm #271698@dead_on_arrvial wrote:
When was the last time you ask what your local council where spending your cash on pb?
Don’t you think you should find out?
Er….. actually it was Wednesday 23rd May when I sat as a member of the Oversight and Scrutiny Committee of my local council. We called in several decisions of the Cabinet and received detailed Officer’s reports on all of them.
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