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Yes, pete.
But net immigration from non-EU countries is cumulatively far bigger than than that from the EU.
Hardworking young people from the EU are likely to fit into the UK well. We have a long history of absorbing immigrants successfully, and I welcome the thriving multi-cultural society which has grown up in the UK for many decades now.
More people in this country have jobs than ever before – they are in general not taking jobs from people, but contributing to the UK economy, including paying for the services. See below on dealing with those who are taking jobs from locals.
We have 1.2 million people living abroad, contributing to economies elsewhere and paying for the services they enjoy.
Thre are many things which can be done to control immigration into this country short of leaving the EU – if it needs controlling. We could demand lengthier tanstion controls and safeguard arranfgements on internal migration, and Cameron should use the referendum – if the Remain side win – to win that. He may well be pushing an open door.
We need to train up unemployed UK people to do the key jobs – many employers are complaining of a major skills shortage.
We need to make sure that public investment in housing and services is increased, and that the open door policy to Russian oligarchs which has made london unaffordable to londoners (Boris Johnson, of Leave, is the main man behind this!), is ended.
And we need to crack down on cheap-wage employers. This means stop advertising abroad for jobs before they’re advertised here first.And we need to unionise and move against the exploitative gangmasters of places such as East Anglia – where a lot of local people have been displaced by Lithuanians and others living in illegal, inhuman living conditions, instead of turning a blind eye to Lithuanians who are trying to fight those conditions.
Practical measures, not scare tactics, are needed.
We might if EU rules didn’t apply. As for multi cultural society it doesn’t work.. in the main people stick to their own. Not that there’s anything inherently wrong with that but birds of a feather do flock together
Pete,
eu rules do stress free movement of labour. That’s why Gove and UKIP reject the Norway and Swiss solutions to the trade problem.But rules are meant to be adapted, especially eu rules. If a country feels overwhelmed, they will take emergency action even if it is illegal under eu rules, and the eu have to accept it – take Austria with the refugees (and I don’t like what Austria does with the refugees, but as an illustration of how to react in an emergency, it illustrates somethng).
We are nowhere near the refugee problem in Austria – nowhere near overwhelmed. The job situation for Brits indicates that. The adaptations I was proposing are within the eu rules, in that they don’t stop free labour as much as insist on moderating its flow and ensuring social rights. If things get bad, then action will have to be taken. EU rules are there to be adapted rather than followed (look at France and Italy over their budget rdeficits, year after year flouncing EU directives while stressing that they will follow them next year,honest).
A multi-cultural society is not one where everybody lives together freely (though i would love that to happen). Communities live side-by-side – the USA is a classic. – with some intermarriage taking place among the more adventurous.. The Jewish communities of Leeds, Salford, the East End have been like that for over a century. The Asian and Caribbean communities of the inner cities are like that. EU labour tends to be temporary migrant labour, rather than permanent, but if any decide to become permanent, that’s fine.
No, BB.
I’m not answering you after your comments on the Jo Cox thread.
You seem a bit brighter than SHR, but just as disgusting.
I’m sure you’ll crow but I feel slightly bilious at the thought of discussing anything with you at the moment, to be honest.
For anyone else, good points were made in the debate last night on BBC, but if anyone has any different points to raise, I’ll happily attempt to answer them. Migrant Watch misuse figures with false assumptions about Turkish entry, and extrapolate projections into the future which are universally agreed to be meaningless.
I absolutely love mass uncontrolled immigration, you xenophobic and close-minded little Brits who are against it just need to practice more tolerance.
It’s vote day guys.
Potentially once in a life time opportunity.Lets be bold and take control of our own destinies and our own country, and to help lead the way for other proud EU nations to follow in our footsteps – free from the tight grasp of undemocratic and unaccountable power-hungry EU overlords.
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